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scottish110



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leeds wrote:
It seems my rant has stirred up a hornets nest!

We seem to have some budding engineers/manufacturers on here



Bobble wrote:
Yeah but.....£120 for what is essentially a curved rectangle of sheet metal? Do come along. Laughing
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I just cannot see that a vent cover comes in realistically at over £100.


I tell you what since it is so easy to do I will take 100 units of you at £30 a piece, made in stainless steel to the same quality and finish as the Entreq ones. Let's face it, it is only a bent piece of metal! Rolling with laughter

Second hand ali ones are sold at £60!


It is quite amazing really what people think is reasonable to pay for gear.

A few examples, One manufacturer charges £345 for an item, someone is prepared to do same item (I will not same same quality Rolling with laughter ) for £280

Now lets look at figures £345 includes VAT, take off VAT and that is £287.50 For this you will have statutory rights made by a company who will guarantee their work, pays business rates, product insurance etc, etc

Then you have someone charging £280, made in garage, paying no business rates, insurance etc etc.


Now which one is actually overcharging?


Then you get people who willing pays 50% over the odds for an item on ebay then wait a couple of weeks to get one from direct source. Laughing


Yes you can buy 12v winches for £500, in fact you can get them for a couple of hundred quid. Also good ones can cost £1,500. Now would I stick a £200 winch on front of my vehicle Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Like a lot of things there is a hell of a range of quality and prices!


Peoples, needs, wants and budget are different

Just accept that fact. If items are overpriced for their quality/fit for purpose etc they will not sell

If things are fit for purpose, made to a good specification, i.e. a premium product they will commard a higher price.

IF you think that these items are overpriced, why not make some to same specification/quality and make some yourself. There is a business opportunity out there for you, otherwise.....................


Brendan


Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter ..... You are spot on mate, you do get what you pay for and i bought an entreq one from Olaf yesterday. For some reason the payment never went through on Paypal so i asked him what was the deal with that and he said he would send over one next week and if i liked it then i could wire the money when i got it...What a great dude Olaf is and that is that kind of service that i love getting. i'll easy be back there for more gear even if it is a bit more expensive than all the rest because im not only paying for a quality bit of kit but im also paying for excelent quality service too Thumbs Up

Mike
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Bobble



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OK, so just how is the Entreq item better? Does it let more air in? Does it keep more snow out?
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The next question is how to secure snow covers against theft Question

By the way I bought the Enreq one then realised the plastic wing plate on the other side looked a bit tatty in comparison so ended up ordering their wing blanking plate for the other side... Rolling Eyes Should have done it with the first order...
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Zagato wrote:
The next question is how to secure snow covers against theft Question

By the way I bought the Enreq one then realised the plastic wing plate on the other side looked a bit tatty in comparison so ended up ordering their wing blanking plate for the other side... Rolling Eyes Should have done it with the first order...


Surely your Defender would never be outside anywhere long enough for something to get stolen...

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Post #106101 11th Dec 2011 10:05am
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Bobble wrote:
OK, so just how is the Entreq item better? Does it let more air in? Rolling with laughter


let's more air into your wallet Laughing

seriously, from what I can see there are 4 options

1. don't bother with a snow cover (put a cloth/oily rag over it when you leave it)
2. Fibreglass model - will not rust, won't hurt anyone if you hit them with it because it would snap ?
3. Blanchard - the genuine article, military spec
4. Entreq - beautiful similar design to Blanchard one but a little more $

How about putting pictures up of each and help Killer90 choose ... maybe watch photos too ? Thumbs Up
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let's more air into your wallet Laughing

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picture wise good idea though i have seen all 3, i cant seem to find part number for a new one from land rover but i just popped up the road and a black 110 parked up had both the snow cover and rad muff which i want defiantly made my mind up Thumbs Up blanchard it is, he had painted his colour coded black to the 110 looks good
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Er what is a watch Question is it some sort of time device Question not interested in the time.

Heater air intake snow cover... dont need one my, my eberspacher cab heater sends warm air to the intake on the wing to so the snow melts before it gets near the car Thumbs Up 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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1 left!
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£17.50 postage?!
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BigMike wrote:
£17.50 postage?!


My thoughts too. I'm looking to order a secure storage box via mail order. Weight 28kgs. delivery charges £4.97 Postage for this item should be no more that £5. If it were no more than £5 I'd have bought one.
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fekete



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Sorry guys never looked at the postage Shocked
send him a email see what he can do ? NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #106235 11th Dec 2011 9:32pm
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AndrewS wrote:
Er what is a watch Question is it some sort of time device Question not interested in the time.

Heater air intake snow cover... dont need one my, my eberspacher cab heater sends warm air to the intake on the wing to so the snow melts before it gets near the car Thumbs Up


You big Snow off Whistle
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BigMike wrote:
£17.50 postage?!


My thoughts too. I'm looking to order a secure storage box via mail order. Weight 28kgs. delivery charges £4.97 Postage for this item should be no more that £5. If it were no more than £5 I'd have bought one.


I think he's up'd the postage and reduced the product price so as to pay less fees to E-Bay [as fees is % of product price]

When i bought mine it was £35 all in .. so only raised by £2.50 Smile Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
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yer thats true dave thats exactly what his done cheeky Censored
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