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Siwynne



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Light leveling motors constantly running
My light levelling motors are constantly running. Everything seems to be connected properly but they run when ignition is on with or without engine running. Any suggestions as to why this would be are welcome
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Take a look at the levelling switch they can fail DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

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Post #1049361 21st Oct 2024 7:39pm
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Siwynne



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Will do
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BaronDefenders



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Santorini Black
I had this on one headlight and that was simply a faulty adjuster motor. Replacing the motor with a new unit was the fix. Charlie

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Post #1049397 22nd Oct 2024 7:38am
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rustandoil



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If you find that your switch is faulty, I would be interested in taking it off your hands, mainly to fill the hole up in my dash Whistle
Post #1049433 22nd Oct 2024 1:45pm
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andy63



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Have you checked a wiring dig..
I had a quick look and it doesn't appear immediately obvious what the ignition switch has to do with it..it looks to be wired directly to the battery through a fuse and the main lighting switch..
Could the motors be picking up a feed from another source?
Post #1049440 22nd Oct 2024 2:52pm
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NickMc



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Northern Ireland 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Bonatti Grey
rustandoil wrote:
If you find that your switch is faulty, I would be interested in taking it off your hands, mainly to fill the hole up in my dash Whistle


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Post #1049441 22nd Oct 2024 2:56pm
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andy63



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after a quick look at the wiring dig the other day in an attempt to offer an explanation to the op's post I sort of guessed there might be a bit more to the way in which the levelling motor works..I sort of assumed that it might be as simple as the window motors ,, but it looks like there is a bit more to the wiring.. not in a position to do any checks myself atm , so thought id ask, does anyone know the method of operation???
is the dash switch a variable resistance and does the motor assembly also have some sort of variable resistance giving feed back on its position?????
Post #1049539 23rd Oct 2024 2:02pm
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andy63



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Some may be interested..
I found a bit info on levelling motors and their controller which i think may be similar to the defender set up..
It a bit involved but you can get the idea..
A faulty resistance track on the motor feedback would cause the motor to run on , but you have both running on and on an ignition live which the wiring dig I looked at doesn't seem to suggest is the normal feed in to the motor control as far as I can see..it's direct from battery through the lighting switch..

https://www.google.com/search?q=verificati...gws-wiz-hp
Post #1049626 24th Oct 2024 10:58am
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rustandoil



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NickMc wrote:
rustandoil wrote:
If you find that your switch is faulty, I would be interested in taking it off your hands, mainly to fill the hole up in my dash Whistle


FBV000070PMA About £3 Thumbs Up


...I have the blank, I was thinking about somthing a little more "interesting" to fill the hole Thumbs Up
Post #1049628 24th Oct 2024 11:23am
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Siwynne



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Thanks for the suggestions and effort. I have not yet had chance to get a multimeter on any of it but will by the end of the weekend and then I’ll post an update
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Johan_B



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Did you find the problem?
I have the exact same issue and I am totally lost when it comes to electrics. How do I measure a faulty switch? Since both motors are running constantly I guess the problem is not in the motors but somewhere upstream.
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keith



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This was my fix. Drivers side motor on permanent.
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Post #1068513 27th May 2025 10:47am
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Johan_B



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Sweden 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Tonga Green
New motors is an option but is there anyway to know if those are the problem before I spend the money?

Yesterday I tried to disconnect the switch and that didn't help, motor is still running. So the motors are getting power also without the switch in the loop. Is there a relay that can be stuck somewhere?

I tried to understand the electric diagram but my knowledge about electrics is too low.

I should also confess that last year I screwed the motor screws all the way in, in an attempt to lower the headlight beam further. Could that have caused the problem?
Post #1069067 4th Jun 2025 8:44am
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andy63



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You will need to try and follow the wiring diag..
Determine which wire is feeding the motors, and trace that back using the wiring diag to try and see where it's picking the power from..
A short somewhere to a power supply maybe..
Ive made an assumption its a switched power supply and not switched on the ground side and it's found another path there..
Post #1069088 4th Jun 2025 3:51pm
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