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Milmur64



Member Since: 05 Oct 2016
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Corris Grey

Many thanks regards Jonathan

Post #644180 15th Aug 2017 4:37pm
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Coatesyyy



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A great guide to follow, thank you! Smile

Post #652602 25th Sep 2017 11:49am
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Giby_off



Member Since: 05 Apr 2015
Location: Sofia
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Bulgaria 

Hi,

What do you think will happen if 3.2 liters are filled into the Puma 2.2 MT82 Gearbox? Is it 100% required to drain it and re-fill with 2.2 liters?

Post #683238 31st Jan 2018 8:52pm
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X4SKP



Member Since: 29 Nov 2013
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Hello Giby_off

Can you drain off 1Lt... Question SKIP.

Post #683245 31st Jan 2018 9:12pm
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Giby_off



Member Since: 05 Apr 2015
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Bulgaria 

I can drain the whole amount and put back 2.2 liters
It seems that many Defenders are filled with 3 liters in the factory and there are no problems or at least I could not fined any complains repleted to more oil in gearbox.

Post #683250 31st Jan 2018 9:17pm
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R1200GS



Member Since: 12 Jul 2015
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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green

Mine definitely had 2.2 litres from the factory when new. Drain and refill with correct amount
its only a 5 minute job really.

Post #683420 1st Feb 2018 3:30pm
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Milmur64



Member Since: 05 Oct 2016
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I drained my gearbox and measured the quantity which was circa 2 litres (see photograph). I then refilled it with 2.2 litres. See photo below of drained oil - crude measure, but reasonable indicator of quantity in box.



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I immediately noticed a much smoother gear change.

Post #683470 1st Feb 2018 7:22pm
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Giby_off



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You were right. It is 5 min job. I drained 3.2 L and filled back 2.2.

Post #683588 2nd Feb 2018 10:24am
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ter11



Member Since: 28 Oct 2015
Location: Zurich
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Switzerland 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Hi everybody!!

Recently I opend the fill plug in my puma’s mt82 gearbox and noticed that gearbox oil was slowly escaping from the filler hole. This should not happen because this box is not filled “until full”. My defender was at one of the leading Swiss specialists for defenders (not an official LR dealer) for servicing last summer, including changes of all oils. So it seems the specialist hast overfilled the mt82.

I drained ca. 3.2 liters from the mt82 and refilled a tad over 2.2 liters!

A test drive immediately after the drain/refill showed good shifting. Maybe very slightly better than before with the overfilled box, but not an entirely new shifting feel. Lets see whether a more clear distinction shows on a long trip. Stil disappointed that the specialist overfilled... My mt82 generally suffers from clunky gear changes 1-2 and 2-3: today however shifting nicely before and - maybe somewhat better - after the refill with correct amount of oil.

Regards!
Ter

Post #683847 3rd Feb 2018 4:20pm
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B4Lamb



Member Since: 21 Mar 2015
Location: Abergavenny, Wales
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Wales 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Galway Green

XS Pete wrote:
Minor addendum to this; my MY11 doesn't use a Torx T50 for the gearbox fill and drain, it uses an 8mm Allen key.
Don't know if LR changed things at some point, but mine definitely aren't Torx.

Pete


Agreed mine is the same an 8 mm Allen Hex not Torx "You are never to old to learn something new"

Post #715298 30th Jun 2018 12:21pm
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MGRGPGBG



Member Since: 19 Dec 2017
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United States 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Ravenol ???

I am having difficulty finding compatible fluids that are listed here and other UK sites, in the USA. I am getting my 2.4 ready and need to track these down. I noticed that I can get Ravenol brand motor oil and gearbox oil on Amazon here and they seem to meet the specification call outs I have found. I have not noticed you guys mentioning this brand so I figured let me check and see if there is any feedback. Thanks

Post #719447 24th Jul 2018 3:48pm
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B4Lamb



Member Since: 21 Mar 2015
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Wales 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Galway Green

Leaky 110 wrote:
This thread saved me loads of time doing the initial service after I bought my 2.4, well done to all contributors!

I ended up having to improvise as I couldn't get the little pump for the oil. With the help of an extra pair of hands I fed a small bit of rubber fish tank tube from the filler holes up through the engine bay to a small funnel. Took a wee bit longer but a much cheaper solution and really simple if you don't have a pump handy.


I bought a quicksilver gear lube pump designed for outboards to pump a known quantity of oil into the gearbox and transfer box. It is ideal for pumping oil of any viscosity upwards into the oil fill ports when it is not easy to pour from above using gravity. The pump is very effective and I found it very quick to deliver a litre of oil at a time. I just made up a curved brass tube and an extended flexible tube that would make it easier to hook into the gearbox fill port. Highly recommended. The pump can be purchased from eBay for less than a tenner. Brass tube from a hardware store and a bit of flexible PVC tubing to extend the reach.

Here is an eBay link to what I bought....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Quicksi...2749.l2649


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 "You are never to old to learn something new"

Post #719606 25th Jul 2018 9:17am
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andrewlandy



Member Since: 07 Feb 2016
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Austria 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Alpine White
Axle and Transfer Oils??

Are the Axle and transfer box oils the sames oils, if the Oil is a GL5 standard?

Post #755962 3rd Feb 2019 5:30pm
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andrewlandy



Member Since: 07 Feb 2016
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Austria 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Alpine White
Conclusion found

So from my research here and looking at all the videos online I have come to the conclusion that diffs, transfer and gearbox oils are all the same. Looking at the handbook also, it is possible to use 1 oil for all 3 and be within the recommended guidelines.

I was planning to use Castrol Syntrans Multivehicle 75W-90. Which is a GL4 coded Oil. But instead went for the Motul Gear 300 which is a GL4/GL5. GL5 being (from what I have seen from all the research done-but i am no expert Whistle ) is a harder wearing grade.

So, Motul Gear 300 in Gearbox, Transfer box and both Axles it is. Bit more expensive but why eff about.

Hope this helps other and saves them the many house I spent trying to research the best options.

Have not bought the oil yet so if i'm wrong please shout. Thumbs Up

Post #756033 3rd Feb 2019 9:11pm
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HardCharger



Member Since: 03 Mar 2013
Location: Manila, SFO, Amsterdam
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Hi All!

My Defender got dunked / drowned and the mechanics drained the transmission just to be sure there is no water contamination and since the "official" gear oil for the transmission is very difficult to come by, they used ATF for the meantime.

Now that I need to change out the master cylinder, secondary, new pipework (upgraded system), clutch disc, pressure plate, (still flood related) I was thinking of changing out the ATF to proper gear oil, this being the case, should I just put in the standard 2.2 liters or should I go with the dry fill of 2.4 liters? Buying 3L of Motul Gear 300 from Opie Oils for this job.

Also, now that I'm changing out most of the clutch hydraulic system, how much DOT 4 do I need?

Thanks.


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