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| 4RF RDS Member Since: 19 Jul 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 898   
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Definitely change that FPR and clean that mess up.
 Check all rubber hoses and electrical wires that have been dripped on. The fuel can rot away that stuff. And as for fuel leaking into the bell housing, yes that can mess up your clutch.
Good luck 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris) 2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam) 2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX) 1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy) 1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood) 1967 MGB GT Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) |
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4th Apr 2022 6:00pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5417 
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A leaking FPR was the cause of clutch slip on my last Td5. New FPR (I got from Turner engineering). Loads of brake cleaner and all good. I’ve also just replaced the FPR on my current Td5, as I noticed it weeping, and didn’t want the clutch problems this time.
Have you checked the bell housing drain plug, and gap? |
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4th Apr 2022 6:15pm |
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| Joncorry Member Since: 03 Apr 2022 Location: Cheshire Posts: 151  
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Thanks, I’ll get some degreasant on it tomorrow and clean it up to see how its all looking. 2003 110 G4 used in 03 and 06 events - its well travelled. 2002 Range Rover G4 Event car (Australian leg) 2008 Discovery 3 G4 UK Selections car 1968 Series 2a |
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4th Apr 2022 6:54pm |
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| Joncorry Member Since: 03 Apr 2022 Location: Cheshire Posts: 151
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I’ve not checked the drain plug and gap yet, just inspected from above in the engine bay and searched on here. I’ll start with a new FPR and go from there. Not heard of Turner before but I’ll look them up, thanks. 2003 110 G4 used in 03 and 06 events - its well travelled. 2002 Range Rover G4 Event car (Australian leg) 2008 Discovery 3 G4 UK Selections car 1968 Series 2a |
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4th Apr 2022 6:57pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5417
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On the Td5 bell housing there is a drain (inspection) plug, but there is also a slot, that should be permanently open. But this often gets blocked with crap. Shoving a cable tie up it is a good way to keep it clear.
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4th Apr 2022 8:46pm |
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| Joncorry Member Since: 03 Apr 2022 Location: Cheshire Posts: 151
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Thanks Landy Andy, it’s meant to be dry tomorrow so I’ll get poking around 👍 2003 110 G4 used in 03 and 06 events - its well travelled.
2002 Range Rover G4 Event car (Australian leg) 2008 Discovery 3 G4 UK Selections car 1968 Series 2a |
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4th Apr 2022 8:54pm |
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| Penfold_6290 Member Since: 22 Sep 2021 Location: Dorset Posts: 274  
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With that amount of oily gunk around the block I'd be looking at the rocker cover gasket too. My Td5 had an oil leak from the rocker cover gasket and a leaky FPR which made a nice runny, slippery mess to drip on the drive.
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4th Apr 2022 8:59pm |
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| Joncorry Member Since: 03 Apr 2022 Location: Cheshire Posts: 151
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Thanks, I’ve ordered one up along with the service kit. 2003 110 G4 used in 03 and 06 events - its well travelled.
2002 Range Rover G4 Event car (Australian leg) 2008 Discovery 3 G4 UK Selections car 1968 Series 2a |
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5th Apr 2022 7:58am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2238
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What Defender did you buy?
There's always a list of "catch up maintenance" when you buy one! l don't want to think about how much l've spent. My clutch went at 80,000, with the same symptoms as yours. It wasn't worn out but was (according to the garage) contaminated by diesel leaking from the FPR. l don't know if the clutch will recover, if you fix the leak. l guess you could try before replacing it. A new clutch costs around £500 including fitting, closer to £1,000 if the DMF needs changing as well, although it shouldn't at that mileage. |
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5th Apr 2022 8:23am |
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| Joncorry Member Since: 03 Apr 2022 Location: Cheshire Posts: 151
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Thanks for the rough costs on the clutch, I was tempted to do it but I would be doing it on the drive so it would probably be too much of a faff and a decent garage will make light work of it.
The defender is a 2002 110 station wagon, just covered 63K and started life in the MOD somewhere as it wasn’t registered until 2012. Interesting spec for the MOD being silver, built by special vehicles, aircon, factory carpets, heated screen, electric front windows and half leather seats (all 9 of them!). It drives well enough aside from the clutch slip and yes there’s catch up maintenance. The previous keeper provided plenty of receipts but walking around it, there’s lots of little things that were neglected probably as they weren’t stopping it getting an MOT or functioning. It needs both back tyres and the spare replacing but curiously the fronts are new GG AT3’s. There’s some bits on the chassis just in front of the rear wheels (circled below) that need replacing but generally the bulk head and the chassis are good. Just need to find out if the circled parts are called rear outriggers….  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge 2003 110 G4 used in 03 and 06 events - its well travelled. 2002 Range Rover G4 Event car (Australian leg) 2008 Discovery 3 G4 UK Selections car 1968 Series 2a |
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5th Apr 2022 8:37am |
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| Joncorry Member Since: 03 Apr 2022 Location: Cheshire Posts: 151
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Whilst having a good look around it today, I found a curious EGR bypass. Any reason for doing this?
Click image to enlarge 2003 110 G4 used in 03 and 06 events - its well travelled. 2002 Range Rover G4 Event car (Australian leg) 2008 Discovery 3 G4 UK Selections car 1968 Series 2a |
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5th Apr 2022 12:08pm |
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| thinman21 Member Since: 27 Jan 2020 Location: Nottingham Posts: 11 
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Yep - it stops the EGR opening - so improves acceleration (a bit) as no exhaust gas gets into the intake manifold)
Will only make a difference on gentle acceleration - but it is noticeable when you do it. There are commercial EGR Delete kits that remove the EGR completely - what you have is a quick way of achieving it and still being able to re-connect if it ever got spotted in an MOT (though unlikely) |
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5th Apr 2022 3:43pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5417
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After sorting my leaking FPR the clutch went on for many many miles. Hopefully yours will too.
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5th Apr 2022 9:23pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2238
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As above. Fix the leak and then see if the clutch recovers. Try not to let it slip for a few days and you might get lucky.
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8th Apr 2022 12:35pm |
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