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Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5765

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

Quite right Fat Cog, and most definitely not Gerry McG’s target audience for the new Def as not one of you is wearing a cravat.

Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

3rd Jan 2021 10:36am

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3247

GreenMonster wrote:
Lindsey Vonn. Even you knumbskulls must have heard of her. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJWriW2niRu/?hl=en[/url]

Definitely not, not a clue who she is.

To me sick is when you are ill

When I look at other Velar owners and then look at myself, Im definitely not the target audience. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue

3rd Jan 2021 11:51am

Fat Cog

Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Oxfordshire & Devon
Posts: 502

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

Grenadier wrote:
Quite right Fat Cog, and most definitely not Gerry McG’s target audience for the new Def as not one of you is wearing a cravat.

Ha ha, no cravats in sight but plenty of oily hands, if I remember correctly we'd just changed a wheel bearing on one of the Defender's; what I love about my LR scene is the eclectic bunch of folk I meet, I'm not sure this will ever be the case again with the way JLR are going, my Wolf is 22 years old & will most definitely outlive me, it'll never be beyond economic repair nor (thankfully) attract a celebrity owner but that's just fine by me & I suspect I represent most folk on this forum. Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains

3rd Jan 2021 5:38pm

JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7873

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

But I'm also happy for the odd celeb to copy my fashion lead driving Defenders!!

James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html
MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557
Instagram @suffolk_rovers

3rd Jan 2021 6:34pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

GreenMonster wrote:
Lindsey Vonn. Even you knumbskulls must have heard of her. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJWriW2niRu/?hl=en[/url]

You greatly underestimate the ignorance of some...

3rd Jan 2021 6:40pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

Zed wrote:
GreenMonster wrote:
Lindsey Vonn. Even you knumbskulls must have heard of her. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJWriW2niRu/?hl=en[/url]

Vonn was one of the greatest downhill skiers of all time but isn't she sponsored by Land Rover? I know they sponsor the current US ski and snowboard teams.

Yep ~ bought and paid for, so in my eyes really don't count:

"Land Rover is building a roster of star endorsers with 10 snow-sport athletes representing its brands this winter – as well as a rock/pop singer warming up in the wings.

Alpine ski racers Lindsey Vonn, Ted Ligety and Mikaela Shiffrin are among the luxury automaker’s new endorsers, along with snowboarders Maddie Mastro and Chris Corning. It’s part of the luxury automakers new partnership with U.S Ski & Snowboard, the national governing body for the US Olympic teams."

https://www.campaignlive.com/article/look-...il/1669052

3rd Jan 2021 6:45pm

GreenMonster

Member Since: 30 Sep 2020
Location: Virginia
Posts: 77

I’m still waiting for my free Defender. I won a race or two back in my teens. That outta be worth at least a lego set.

6th Jan 2021 7:14pm

DSL

Member Since: 20 Aug 2007
Location: Wandering the wasteland.
Posts: 837

I came in the top 80% in the last race I ran in, that’s bound to qualify me for a free Defender.

6th Jan 2021 7:26pm

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10360

Wow, all these opinions.

7th Jan 2021 3:54pm

Oldmowgli

Member Since: 31 Oct 2020
Location: Sunny South East Queensland
Posts: 34

Grenadier wrote:
Quite right Fat Cog, and most definitely not Gerry McG’s target audience for the new Def as not one of you is wearing a cravat.

And of course the rest of us new Def owners are wearing them ?

I don't think I'm Gerry's target audience either, based on your opinion, but I bought one all the same. And bloody fantastic it is.

You can keep on mouthing off your stereotypes Grenadier, and sounding bitter, twisted and planted in the past - meanwhile those of us who have had the balls to go buy one and give it a fair go, will just use them, abuse them and quietly enjoy surprising the crap out of everyone who expects it to be only a useless chelsea tractor.

Oldmowgli

10th Jan 2021 1:04pm

Huttopia

Member Since: 23 Feb 2016
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1968

Steady on.

10th Jan 2021 1:38pm

nowrxo

Member Since: 10 Sep 2015
Location: None
Posts: 79

Oldmowgli does have a point. Serial detractors like Grenadier posting stereotypes of New Defender owners as effete latte-sipping Guardian-reading metrosexuals is tiresome, immature and pathetic. Why even bother reading this sub-forum? You're not going to buy the car. That much is obvious. Do you just want to prove how superior you are?

I for one am interested in buying a new Defender, so come here to read forum posts hoping I'll learn something from others' experiences. Reading sneering comments about the thing doesn't make me think that is a community worth spending any time in. Or perhaps I shouldn't even consider the car at all. If that's the sort of person who drives a Defender (albeit an old one), why would I want anything in common with them?

10th Jan 2021 10:08pm

Huttopia

Member Since: 23 Feb 2016
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1968

It’s only a car chaps. If you consider one of the main reasons folk come to this forum is for support / technical advice from people who’ve had it / done / made that mistake, then maybe the argument for having a separate forum for the new one gathers pace.

10th Jan 2021 10:28pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

juwivive wrote:
Reading sneering comments about the thing doesn't make me think that is a community worth spending any time in.

Those rules apply to everyone equally?

juwivive wrote:
Having said all that, I looked again at the initial post, saw the author's name and it all made sense.

Can we keep the thread on topic? Cut & paste any comments you take exception to, sleep on them, and if you must start your own thread the next day.

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10th Jan 2021 10:49pm

Fat Cog

Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Oxfordshire & Devon
Posts: 502

I think this thread has got somewhat off-track from the celebrity theme & has got far too personal; its undeniable that modern day JLR (& every other manufacturer) have become celebrity & image obsessed which has alienated a sizeable section of Land Rover enthusiasts, as far as I can see this thread is about marketing strategy as opposed to the merits of the new Defender.

That said, I believe Huttopia makes a good point regarding separate forums...unlike the Wrangler, G-Wagon DNA etc the new 2020 Defender is so far removed from the pre-2016 model that making comparisons is pointless & the chasm will widen by natural progression as the old model becomes consigned to, albeit living, automotive history.

I've said this on previous posts that the new Defender isn't my cup of tea but I suspect my Wolf & 90 HT XS are not to the liking of most 2020 Defender owners, that doesn't mean I hold a personal grudge or any judgement whatsoever, nor would I expect others to sit in judgement on me & if its all going to get personal & nasty then I think, forum-wise' the writing is on the wall. Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains

10th Jan 2021 10:51pm

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