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Ads90

Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds
Posts: 800

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green

Anyone buying the 90 and intending to use the rear seats should definitely not option the square panel thing, as it almost completely blocks the rear passengers view. I would go so far as to say it would devalue the car (compared to same without).

I prefer the proportions of the 90, but it's a shame there is no opening rear side window option - my dog would not be happy not being able to stick his head out with his tongue flapping in the wind.

25th Aug 2020 11:31am

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3247

Can’t your dog stick it’s head out the canvas roof

25th Aug 2020 7:12pm

markb110

Member Since: 22 May 2010
Location: Guildford
Posts: 2520

J77

Great idea.....but dont Land Rover have a roof top kennel on the options list....

25th Aug 2020 9:14pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3750

Maybe they should offer a Freelander1 style drop down tailgate window for dog owners. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

25th Aug 2020 10:24pm

NinetyTD4

Member Since: 22 Apr 2011
Location: North
Posts: 397

markb110 wrote:
J77

Great idea.....but dont Land Rover have a roof top kennel on the options list....

You mean like Snoopy Flying Ace, but a 90 replacing the red doghouse?[/img] Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.

26th Aug 2020 9:40am

Ads90

Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds
Posts: 800

J77 wrote:
Can’t your dog stick it’s head out the canvas roof

He's not a Great Dane!

(Just a daft Pointer cross).
Drop down rear door window would be something, but not as good as seeing a refection of the dog's face peeling off his skull in the door mirror, like Clarkson driving that Atom!

26th Aug 2020 11:15am

Chicken Drumstick

Member Since: 17 Aug 2020
Location: Near MK
Posts: 542

mk1collector wrote:
LandRoverAnorak wrote:
Pacha wrote:
90 is much better proportioned.

That's interesting - I was thinking the opposite. It's all bonnet and doors with proportionally not enough length behind the B pillar.

I’m with you on that! If the door was shorter i think it would look ok but the doors as they are make the rear quarter look too short.

The new Defender is odd proportions, not really sure why. It was one of my comments in my review on how long the bonnet was and how far away you are from the front of the vehicle.

To reinforce this, it is interesting that a Discovery 1 has a shorter wheelbase and has a shorter overall length than the new 90. But Discovery still seems like a large vehicle and capable of having two rows of doors and a large boot area.

In 3 door guise it makes you wonder how JLR have managed to make the 90 so big, yet with such a small interior.

Discovery | 100" | 178.7"

New 90 | 101.9" | 180.4"

Click image to enlarge

From the photos above, you'd think the new 90 is much smaller than the Discovery, not 2" longer!

26th Aug 2020 11:47am

Pacha

Member Since: 23 Feb 2020
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 772

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey

it's not 2" longer - wheelbase is not the overall length.

Disco 1 is 300mm (1 foot) longer in overall (body length). Rgds.

Chris

26th Aug 2020 6:32pm

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3247

I think I’m going to stick with my original plans and take the 90. It’s the one I keep being drawn towards. Who needs practicality anyway.

26th Aug 2020 7:22pm

Pacha

Member Since: 23 Feb 2020
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 772

I would be going 90 Commercial if I was considering one. Rgds.

Chris

26th Aug 2020 7:28pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4478

Chicken Drumstick wrote:
mk1collector wrote:
LandRoverAnorak wrote:
Pacha wrote:
90 is much better proportioned.

That's interesting - I was thinking the opposite. It's all bonnet and doors with proportionally not enough length behind the B pillar.

I’m with you on that! If the door was shorter i think it would look ok but the doors as they are make the rear quarter look too short.

The new Defender is odd proportions, not really sure why. It was one of my comments in my review on how long the bonnet was and how far away you are from the front of the vehicle.

To reinforce this, it is interesting that a Discovery 1 has a shorter wheelbase and has a shorter overall length than the new 90. But Discovery still seems like a large vehicle and capable of having two rows of doors and a large boot area.

In 3 door guise it makes you wonder how JLR have managed to make the 90 so big, yet with such a small interior.

Discovery | 100" | 178.7"

New 90 | 101.9" | 180.4"

Click image to enlarge

From the photos above, you'd think the new 90 is much smaller than the Discovery, not 2" longer!

If this had been badged as a Discovery you could say that it was a logical redefining of the origional. Shape wise it has more in common with the early Discovery which I think still looks very well. I am not knocking the new Defender but it does seem to have more DNA in common with the Discovery. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

26th Aug 2020 8:53pm

Smilesapart

Member Since: 28 Sep 2013
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 735

I think almost everyone Would agree that the new Defender would have made an excellent replacement for the Discovery 4. Sold the Puma Defender and bought a brand new Pangea Green 2020 Defender D240 S with a few factory extras!

27th Aug 2020 10:48am

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3247

Take this with a pinch of salt but some info on the 90 from the online customer help.

27th Aug 2020 3:38pm

Chicken Drumstick

Member Since: 17 Aug 2020
Location: Near MK
Posts: 542

Pacha wrote:
it's not 2" longer - wheelbase is not the overall length.

Disco 1 is 300mm (1 foot) longer in overall (body length).

Figures are from Wiki. Although I did think afterwards if they included the spare wheel or not. Do you have some figures for reference? Thanks.

27th Aug 2020 4:05pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3750

Here is the New Defender 90’s stats from the e-brochure

Click image to enlarge Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

27th Aug 2020 4:28pm

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