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90GTR



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JE Engineering stage 1 tune
Recently bought a TD5 and want to do a stage 1 tune on it to make it a little more awake.

Previously owned a Stage 2 Tune+ vehicle from them a couple years ago but found the power a bit unnecessary for its use at the time.

Has anybody had a stage 1 tune done by them?

Hoping for one that doesn't splurge alot of black smoke all the time!
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roel



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I think most tunes will give a small amount off black smoke below rougly 2000 rpm, above that there should not be any black smoke in my eyes. Roel

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I had one a few years back and no smoke, but it did add more go, though I felt that perhaps it came in a little suddenly Rob

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I had one in 99 on my td5, je stage 1, loved it no smoke good economy over the 97k miles I had it. Went back to them for my l322. Cheers

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Stages are Censored .

Just have your car tuned to what you want it to do.

Speak to Gareth at Empire he is ex JE. Brilliant guy and knows it all. Instagram @defender_ventures
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As above, I'd speak with forum sponsor Gareth at Empire Tuning! Does great work!! Will tune to suit your exact requirements, not just a standard tune. Thumbs Up James
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jst wrote:
I had one in 99 on my td5, je stage 1, loved it no smoke good economy over the 97k miles I had it. Went back to them for my l322.


Have one on my 90. Done 11 years ago - can't fault it - great remap 2007 TD5 90 Hard Top
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90GTR



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Great to hear it, will likely be sending it down when lockdown eases off.

For the moment I don't really need something specific to my use. Its more of case of just waking it up a bit more ! It already feels better with the new air sensor!

Whats the feeling regarding additional wear on the turbo / other components? Think this truck has about 108k....
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jst



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Was my post removed ref empire? Cheers

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Yes JE did my tune on TD5 2006. Had the roof tent on at the time and when he took it for a test drive, approaching the roundabout way too fast, nearly rolled it. Big fright to us both. Shocked
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bankz5152



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90GTR wrote:
Great to hear it, will likely be sending it down when lockdown eases off.

For the moment I don't really need something specific to my use. Its more of case of just waking it up a bit more ! It already feels better with the new air sensor!

Whats the feeling regarding additional wear on the turbo / other components? Think this truck has about 108k....


Barely run in!!! Mines at 137k driven daily and putting out some chunky power at the min. Planning to go further shortly.

That said I had the turbo off and fitted a hybrid within 2 days of getting my 110 Laughing easy to check wear on the turbo just pull the hose off anf give it a wiggle. Minimal lateral play is fine in and out play is not.


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TD5s are wonderful engines, very strong, very powerful (when done right) and very reliable.

Gareth at Empire would run through everything with you, along with check the car over to ensure its healthy enough to take it. Post lockdow that is! Best bet is to speak to him. Instagram @defender_ventures
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keith



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Around 1 year After my TD5 JE tune, I remember hearing a whistling noise when on throttle. Turned out to be cracked manifold, as a result of higher temperatures due to the tuneup. There’s always a negative somewhere along the line.


Keith
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JOW240725 wrote:
As above, I'd speak with forum sponsor Gareth at Empire Tuning! Does great work!! Will tune to suit your exact requirements, not just a standard tune. Thumbs Up


I'd echo that. http://www.empiretuning.co.uk/
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bankz5152 wrote:
Stages are Censored .

Just have your car tuned to what you want it to do.

Speak to Gareth at Empire he is ex JE. Brilliant guy and knows it all.


I was under the impressions that stages of tune are related to the physical modifications done/needed to run that particular software?

Regards

Chris
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MGDM4



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Everyone has different definitions of 'Stage x' so even that is hard to compare like for like.

As mentioned previously remaps should definitely not be done in stages as they should be bespoke to the owners requirements and the vehicles modifications.
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