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| TJH1985 Member Since: 22 Aug 2016 Location: Midlands Posts: 238  
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I think I’d quite like one in a few years
We have a growing family, we have recently sold a TD5 90 and a L322 TDV8 both were amazing and actually really reliable over the 4 and 5 years we owned them. I really wanted a D4 but the other half wanted a L405 which is what we have now compared to the L322 it’s not a huge step forwards IMO.. it’s nice in many ways but also less practical in so many ways! We had to cut the stuff we carried in the boot and have to fold a rear seat to fit the dog cage and pushchair in something we never had to do in the L322 it’s obvious why because it’s make the car look better but ultimately it’s a pain and the reason I would seriously consider the new Defender Safe, Capable and Practical. Shame they are worth more than our Autobiography! |
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26th Mar 2020 11:47pm |
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| defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1613 
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Don’t feel guilty Slidey I had a 52 plate Freelander Td4 years ago it was my daily drive and was completely faultless. My son recently bought a 56 plate HSE, one owner with low miles, he loves it and as you say can be picked up for peanuts  |
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27th Mar 2020 10:04am |
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| DuncanS Member Since: 07 Dec 2013 Location: Cumbria Posts: 295 
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Yep I had a TD4 3dr pre facelift freelander before I got the Defender. And whilst I love the Defender and wouldn't sell it (unless for another) I'd love to get a FL2 again. However I got back into a friends FL1 for the first time since selling mine, and by christ the driving position is wierd compared to a defender!
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27th Mar 2020 10:17am |
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| gorilla.maguila Member Since: 27 Mar 2020 Location: Andorra Posts: 1 |
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27th Mar 2020 9:22pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2520  
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It does make you wonder to how much money would have been left in the pot if the car industry had not wasted an absolute fortune on electric and self driving car projects.
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27th Mar 2020 10:51pm |
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| adolfy Member Since: 01 Dec 2016 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 58 
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I find it hard to believe that there is anyone that would now touch JLR, except to asset strip it.
Jon Land Rover 1950 series 1 Land Rover LWB 1967 series 2A Land Rover SWB 1980 series 3 Land Rover 110 Defender 2013 |
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28th Mar 2020 11:15am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3996 
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It would be great is PSA group could pick it up I think. They don’t currently have any brands in that market so would fit well. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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28th Mar 2020 12:29pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1350 
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PSA have recently signed up for a merger with FCA.
Either Jeep or Landrover would be worried at the prospect of ending up in the same group. 
https://www.fcagroup.com/en-US/investors/P...erger.aspx |
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28th Mar 2020 5:07pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750 
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double Post Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 28th Mar 2020 6:18pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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28th Mar 2020 6:16pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750
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a Land Rover with a Fiat engine ............
 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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28th Mar 2020 6:17pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2050 
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Could be worse, could use a feckin FORD...........ahhhhhh
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28th Mar 2020 6:19pm |
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| Morepower Member Since: 08 Jan 2013 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 630 
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@Tim in Scotland.... Well Tata have already junked the
 ingenium engine and fitted Fiat units to their products in India as the ingenium units where causing too many warranty issues.... Don't be too quick to write the Fiat units off either... They are highly regarded in the trade... (OK you do get the rest of the car for free and it shows)... However, I've two friends who've now covered interstellar mileage in their Alfa JTDm units... one did 350000 miles until the rest of the car gave up and the other did 295000 before they got bored of it.... Which isn't bad when you consider one had it mapped to nigh on 200Bhp and the other was a 170bhp unit (std).... Yes a few TDI 200/300 and few TD5's will get similar mileage... However, JLR are replacing 1000 engines a month under warranty... So how good is their current unit in comparison?...By the looks of it... Not very...
Regards Tim.... Also in Scotland It doesn't matter how bad it is, It can always get worse... 2013 Bowler 110 (Sold) 2016 Bowler 90 Rally Spec (Sold) |
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28th Mar 2020 6:36pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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Will the "New Defender" become the Mini Metro of it's time?... Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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28th Mar 2020 6:55pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3009 
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1000 engines a month! Which units are the main culprits? WARNING. This post may contain sarcasm. |
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28th Mar 2020 7:11pm |
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