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NickMc



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Northern Ireland 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Bonatti Grey
Winch on your trailer?
Im going to finally get round to fitting a winch on my Ifor Williams, just wondering how everyone else has gone about this? it's a flatbed so will have to move the spare, only thing about the winch being in the middle is the towing eyes on everything isn't Rolling Eyes


Im thinking about fitting the battery in a toolbox:



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Then getting a 12v solar panel to keep the battery trickling the charge up? I do have a Ctek charger too.

What about the wireless remotes? ive seen them on evilbay and they look exactly same as the ones other places are selling, but £30 cheaper?!

Just looking for anyone elses expericences/do and donts.


Thanks!
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blackwolf



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No problems with fleet angles with this ^^ !

I just use the Defender winch when needed.
Post #787801 19th Aug 2019 10:25pm
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NickMc



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Wonder how many £££££’s that is though Shocked
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blackwolf



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^^^ Many, I have no doubt, but it is a simple idea which could be replicated non-commercially easily enough.

The genuine IW winch mounts now fir to the two cross rails under the headboard, and IIRC there are two manual winches available, as well as a generic electric winch mounting platform. I guess the first thing you'd need to decide is the purpose of the winch, since this will determine the line pull and drum capacity you need.

If you are only needing it to roll dead vehicles on their wheels onto the trailer then you won't need a big winch, and consequently the battery and charging system can be smaller and the nose-weight will be easier to control. Virtually all the trailer winch installations I have seen rely upon a plug-in connection to the towing vehicle with Anderson connectors, which I guess avoids the need to carry the weight of the battery on the trailer and avoids the need for a charging system.

If you tend to tow the trailer a fair distance between winching operations, then a charging feed from a caravan-type connection (12S or 13-pin) could charge the battery, augmented by a solar panel.

A compact winch, battery, solar charge system, with perhaps a vehicle charging feed too would be a neat solution. I look forward to seeing how this develops and hope that you show us pictures of whatever you decide to do.

I'd be interested in any feedback on wireless remotes too, since there seems to be a huge difference between the cheap and cheerful and the "professional" ones.

That's a nice trailer, by the way, even if the towing vehicle looks a bit "sus"!
Post #787846 20th Aug 2019 8:59am
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ickle



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I made a removable tray for my IW flatbed, fitted through the central riveted panel the one way with pins and clips and the mount had a 40mm tube the other so it could be mounted on the rear of my 100" removable towbar - powered through an Anderson socket either directly when mounted on the 100" or extension leads when on the trailer - these also doubled as jump leads with another Anderson and a pair of heavy clips.

Sounds complicated but it was simple, and the Anderson lead was also used to charge the battery on the IW electric tipper.

IIRC I used a Superwinch EP9000, also enabled it to be securely stowed away when not needed away from the trailer.

HTH Keith
Post #787940 20th Aug 2019 8:22pm
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NickMc



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Thanks Keith,

Have you got any pictures of your mount Keith? Smile

I’d also thought about making it some wonderful demountable winch, that slides along and joins in some how with where the head board post go and tie it in the middle where the genuine mount goes- then I catch myself on and think I’ve enough work in my life already Laughing

I picked up a used Ramsey REP9000x it’s 24v, but cost me next to nothing. It’s a 16ft flat bed with 8ft ramps so shouldn’t be too hard to pull.
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jst



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I had a winch on the ifor winch mount sitting forward and proud of the headboard, so sat over the a frame. Ran a 6000lb winch with Anderson off the vehicle. If you connect off Anderson sockets to the battery it's always got charge. Cheers

James
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90 Puma Hardtop
Post #787993 21st Aug 2019 7:12am
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ickle



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As James says it was over the A frame, I had two HD pins welded to a winch mount that went through holes in the headboard frame with Ifor side board pins holding it, then the top of the winch frame just butted up to the rest of the headboard frame, then I had a threaded shackle (like for holding shipping containers etc) down onto an eye on the hitch.

I'll try and find a photo, I also had lashing points at the side of the bed so could use a snatch block on a strap to line up tow points etc.

Good luck!
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custom90



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Could you not use one of those drill powered winches if you have or could create two suitable winch points on the trailer?
It would depend on weight I know and couldn't be too HD, but would save you a lot of work.

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Post #788148 21st Aug 2019 11:27pm
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NickMc



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Don’t think I’d fancy pulling a D3 or Defender onto it with one of those think they’re only rated to 1.2 T? Shocked Laughing
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jst



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Hard surface, 10% of load, plus 10% gradient. Approx 600kg load. 1.2t winch no problems maybe 20% for ramp? Cheers

James
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130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #788225 22nd Aug 2019 11:39am
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