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Ads90



Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green

Grenadier wrote:
by the previous year's model and see as much as 50% Off. If you do go down this route, bare in mind that ebikes are evolving faster than any segment of the bike industry so in just a year there can be a real leap in tech.

That's the limbo I often find myself in - laptops, cameras, phones & now ebikes - I get anxious that next year's model will be loads better, I get pre-FOMO, and end up not buying anything! Embarassed

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srod



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I converted an old mountain bike using a Bafang 250W crank drive kit with 15Ah battery, was about £650 for the kit. Used it for my daily commute last winter and put over 2000miles on it. It worked really well and was very reliable, it certainly took the edge of rainy headwinds. Liked it so much I'd often take the scenic route home through the forest. Once in the snow it was fantastic, using the throttle I could climb slippery sections, wheel spinning and fishtailing the back end that would have been impossible without the motor.



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Post #787159 16th Aug 2019 12:38pm
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Grenadier wrote:
I hate ebikes. Old people keep passing me on the local hills making my efforts look bad


Sorry about that. Happens all the time that I’m overtaking those Eddy Merckx and Rik Van Looy wannabes in their tight Lycra’s with my 14 speed Rohloff geared - https://www.rohloff.de/en/products/speedhub/ -350W Flyer touring bike. Most of them say friendly hello, but indeed there are a few others who really get angrily frustrated. These will stand up on their pedals, working their butt off to prove themselves, but almost never they can keep up with me. It always amazes me how many of those pro lookalikes still bike without helmets.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #787226 16th Aug 2019 6:54pm
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Welshsurferdude



Member Since: 23 Feb 2012
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Wales 

Love my specialised kenevo had it year and half it’s had a hammering no issues

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 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW

2011 Black defender 110 XS Utility (Sold)

1996 Defender 90 300tdi Bali Blue NAS soft top (in build)

2002 Bonatti Grey D110 TD5 County Crew Cab (gone)

2004 Bonatti Grey Discovery 3 HSE

Post #787264 16th Aug 2019 9:18pm
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markb110



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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green

Hi Caterham

Check out The Bike Pilot's You Tube Channel



The above link is for the first instalment.

They rode the Coast to Coast on the current Specialized Levo Expert / S Works. Carbon and 700WH batteries. I cant remember the weight of those bikes, but lighter than mine.


Funny enough the downhill bikes in the 90's were not far off weight wise to the higher end MTB eBikes of today


One on gate I had to get over I just took the battery out as it saves weight and my back. So ways and means.

Post #787269 16th Aug 2019 9:23pm
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landy andy



Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver

I am thinking of swapping from mountain bike to electric mountain bike, but struggle with the idea that they only assist up to 15mph. That’s very slow isn’t it? Are you all derestricting them?

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DonH2000



Member Since: 12 Jan 2015
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

You can de-restrict them but

1 It is illegal to use on the public highway in the UK (like electric scooters).
2 It will invalidate any manufacturers warranty.
3 Most shops will not service modified bikes.

Any way 15 mph is fast enough to go up hills and you can also peddle faster down hill. Managed to get mine up to 33 mph in the New Forest last year going down hill!!! Cheers Don.

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windy81



Member Since: 14 Mar 2018
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Wales 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Montpellier Red

An average speed of 15mph using your legs wouldn't be bad going at all.
If an electric assist helped me maintain that speed i'd be more than happy to be honest.

Around here in the depth of N.Wales, I used to average a speed of around 13mph mostly due to the steep inclines everywhere you go and I wasn't hanging about !

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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
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Coming off a bike at 8-9mph hurts, coming off at 15 mph is very painful on a rough track, any faster and you’ll need the What Three Words app for the air ambulance to locate you after coming off the bike out in the wilds Epsom Green Tdi300 County Hard Top that has been converted into a Station Wagon
Recently departed - RRS2 HSE Dynamic in Corris Grey brilliant car but a pity about the crank problem JLR don’t acknowledge so at 3 years old it was replaced by my first non-LR car in 30 years......... a fantastic Mini Countryman PHEV, loving the economy of so far better than 148mpg as it runs 90% of the time on solar generated volts and amps

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Caterham



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

markb110 wrote:
Hi Caterham

Check out The Bike Pilot's You Tube Channel



The above link is for the first instalment.

They rode the Coast to Coast on the current Specialized Levo Expert / S Works. Carbon and 700WH batteries. I cant remember the weight of those bikes, but lighter than mine.


Funny enough the downhill bikes in the 90's were not far off weight wise to the higher end MTB eBikes of today


One on gate I had to get over I just took the battery out as it saves weight and my back. So ways and means.


Mr. Green

yep minute 7 to 8 just reinforces my opinion Thumbs Up

would rather spend the money on extra carbon fibre, Di2 gears and less weight Very Happy
but as I've said before - everyone to their own and horses for courses.

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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver

This is the speedsfor my last outing on my mountain bike which I think is low geared.


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90 Dreamer



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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

landy andy wrote:
I am thinking of swapping from mountain bike to electric mountain bike, but struggle with the idea that they only assist up to 15mph. That’s very slow isn’t it? Are you all derestricting them?


Posted this on the 'Pilgrims' thread but basically its then classed the same as a motorised scooter

"At which point I'm led to believe they are basically classed as a moped and you need licence/ insurance / etc ???"

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Caterham



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

landy andy wrote:
This is the speedsfor my last outing on my mountain bike which I think is low geared.


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landy andy. seems like a very reasonable pace to me. what sort of terrain are you riding for those statistics?

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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver

Small country lanes for the start, then off onto byways, and paths off road.

The swap for me is due to
1 not using the bike. Only about 6 times since buying it
2 got motorhome, so want, a chance to get somewhere without getting a sweat on.

I’m fit, so have been poo pooing electric bikes, but everyone says that they are fantastic, and I do think it would work well with MoHo. Wiff wants me to buy two tiny folding electric bikes, Brompton type things, but I can’t get any interest in them, and they ain’t cheap anyway.

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Caterham



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

/\ fairly flat?

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