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leeds



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People who do not deal with their waste correctly are in the wrong and fly tippers are the scum of the earth.

Apologies if this turns into a rant.

So if someone draws up on a public road and lobs a fridge/sofa/rubbish into a field which might be a field used for grazing livestock.. Now farmer comes along and to protect the livestock pitches the flytipped rubbish back over the wall onto public highway. Farmer is then liable to prosecution for fly tipping if caught out.

Now I had a storage unit in student ville of Leeds side door kicked in and rubbish dumped inside from local student houses. Yes the four legged rats were enjoying themselves on the takeaway boxes etc. Leeds environmental health threaten me with prosecution and threaten to clear up the rubbish and bill me. That cost me several hundred pounds to clean up the rubbish left by the scumbags who damaged my property by breaking into it.


Now is recycling in the western world squeaky clean? Sorry but the affluent western world exports its garbage around the world.

The Philippines have a major problem at the moment. Container loads of 'plastic' for recycling from Canada are actually household rubbish, dirty nappies etc.

Now as a considerate UK person with your old electrical item which you take down to your local recycling centre you feel good that you have done right by the planet? Ooops how much of those computers/tv/fridges etc actually lands up in a country like Ghana where the locals strip out the components and burn off the pvc etc in the open air. For a USD per day they suffer all sorts of respiratory illnesses and nasty burms etc trying to extract the copper etc. Slight problem there they can not afford the safety gear to protect themselves or the medical costs to try and slow down the health issues.

Your local bus company gets rid of the dirty diesel buses to improve local environment. What happens to the buses? Ooops they are exported to less wealthy countries so another case of wealthy countries exporting their pollution.

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Leeds, we live in a disposable world now sadly and things just get chucked for the sake of it now. How often do people fix Tv etc now? not many people do sadly. CRT stuff I think was retired for no reason, I see no difference between the CRT TV and the later stuff. To me it was a waste of money pushing LCD and LED stuff on! I am a one for fixing stuff if possible, rather than just replace it. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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leeds wrote:

So if someone draws up on a public road and lobs a fridge/sofa/rubbish into a field which might be a field used for grazing livestock.. Now farmer comes along and to protect the livestock pitches the flytipped rubbish back over the wall onto public highway. Farmer is then liable to prosecution for fly tipping if caught out.
Brendan


Yes, indeed. Another grey area is what if you come across obstruction on a BOAT. (Byway.)
Okay, you think I'll pop out remove it to the side if possible and continue.
You are right next to your Defender, what if you are seen OR there is surveillance of what ever format that is.
They could then argue you are the culprit yourself by "being in possession" of the waste merely just by moving it quite innocently because you have right to access.

There are a couple of nice little short cut of Byways near me I now no longer ever use due to this very issue and damaging debris in the vicinity.
I've had tyre damage 3 times in 9 years purely due to broken glass, since I no longer use these culprit couple of lanes luckily have no further issues.

Don't get me started on random glass bottles left on the roads too!

On a different note, not so sure about LCD but LED was brought about to save energy which indeed it does and largely more reliable.
Once it has had its lifetime which is very long indeed that is it though.

Regarding fixing things too, you have to bear in mind safety.
What maybe common sense to some is meaningless to another individual and many things have type approvals etc to meet too.
Good or bad, once altered from manufacturer spec the build standard at manufacture is then void by the modification followed though with.

Local authorities have also been messing around with waste collection dates and bins etc too, often determined to collect less leaving many with a surplus of waste.
You can guess what sons want to do with that!

We had this last year, a surplus of waste but we kept it to get rid of it bit by bit, bit by bit over a period of time to get rid eventually and catch up.
That took about 5 months using the standard waste collection.

I think it's a city folk issue more than anything, but equally they do have issues that many of us not in it don't have to live with.
People being forced to live on top of one another is not right, and one of the reasons our natural wildlife and countries well being is being ebbed away.

Concrete also gives off CO2, but that's another issue. We certainly are over populated and waste and packaging must be reduced but it's not individuals who created it. Target the sources for responibity as a start and work back to the end user / purchaser from there.

How anyone can just throw anything out a car window or similar I do not know.
It'd never sit well with me, these people must be very different is all I can say! Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️
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blackwolf wrote:
^^ Two points: (1) I wouldn't mind betting that the fly-tipping clean up costs come from a different budget line and therefore don't equate directly, and (2) if the fly-tipping is on private land it costs the council nothing, it is the landowner or occupier who has to bear the cost.

In fact, if someone dumps a lorry-load of 500 scrap tyres or fridges on your land you probably won't even find anyone who'll investigate for you, it will be considered a civli matter.

Shocking.


In Redcar some years ago a group of gang who were supposed to be disposing of tyres on behalf of different tyre fitting companies were driving along residential streets throwing them into peoples gardens under cover of darkness. If I remember correctly the local authority would collect them if you lived in social housing but not if you owned your own property. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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My local authority burn household rubbish at an incinerator owned by a private company who supply the waste heat as a means of heating house in a near by town. This facility also allows residents to take household rubbish not collected by the local authority.

I used to take garden rubbish, waste from my home alterations without any problem until I purchased the 110. I turned up one day with four broken paving stones only to be refused entry, the reasons given were vehicle to high to fit under newly install height barrier ( cars only allowed in site) and my vehicles was classed by the site owners and the local authority as a commercial vehicle and therefore by association the waste was commercial and it would have to be taken to a commercial waste facility and I would be charged £50.00 a visit. Banging Head Banging Head Censored I felt like, in my annoyed state, dumping it at the entrance like other had done but no I drove 50 yards to a company who separate soil from hardcore and had a word with the gate man who arranged a bob cat to carry the paving stones away for crushing. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
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there was a spate of flytipping down a road from ongar to Romford Litterlly couldn't turn off, piles of rubbish like 6 to 8 foot high, constantly having to snake round them.

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OsloBlue wrote:
there was a spate of flytipping down a road from ongar to Romford Litterlly couldn't turn off, piles of rubbish like 6 to 8 foot high, constantly having to snake round them.




let me guess the farmer got done Evil or Very Mad


some arse wipes who own a shop (selling white goods) opposite where I used to work and next to a bus stop one morning about 7.30am just walked out with a load of polystyrene and just chucked it into the road !
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Good on 'em.
Only trouble is that I bet the van was stolen as well.
I do hope the farmers didn't get charged with anything.
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I am surprised that the farmers didn't have a gun and potted their arses. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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It just keeps getting worse Clinical waste fly-tipped.


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WTF.

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good.
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Even if taking all waste to the council waste and recycling centres was free, I reckon there would still be many scrotes who would fly-tip.

Some people just don't have a civic mentality irrespective of whether there is money involved,

E.g. in my local park there are plenty of rubbish bins that the council empties multiple times a week.
Park users still throw rubbish all over, sometimes just a few feet away from the bins.
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