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Landie Boy

Member Since: 15 Jan 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 431

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

Proof of 2.2 being fitted in 2012

Taken this straight from topix, it is the only engine avaliable... We are also losing the ability to buy it in 3 forms; CREW CAB 4 DR, CREW CAB HCPU 4 DR and PICK UP 2DR. I suggest if you want one of those 3 get it now

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Jack

18th May 2011 8:36pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4495

and that seems to be that.....Well spotted.

1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

18th May 2011 8:42pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

i was right after all.
seems I was given the right info many many moons ago!

question is should I have waited? will it be a step in the right direction, a backwards step or simply different?

18th May 2011 9:08pm

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

fingers crossed for an auto as well.

18th May 2011 9:10pm

110SEB

Member Since: 29 Jan 2009
Location: Essex, England
Posts: 1444

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

Guys, forgive me, but what is 'topix'?

18th May 2011 9:11pm

Landie Boy

Member Since: 15 Jan 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 431

110SEB wrote:
Guys, forgive me, but what is 'topix'?

It is a service from land rover for dealer, I would recommend that you check it out. It's free if you want basic Information like the ability to find your vehicle with it's vin, see recalls etc.... You can also see fitting instructions for assesories.

Hope that helped
Jack

18th May 2011 9:19pm

Landie Boy

Member Since: 15 Jan 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 431

pom wrote:
fingers crossed for an auto as well.

At the moment it says it uses the exsisting box

Jack

18th May 2011 9:22pm

Zagato
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Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Billingshurst West Sussex
Posts: 4990

Why the change to the 2.2 Litre?

18th May 2011 10:00pm

Landie Boy

Member Since: 15 Jan 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 431

Zagato wrote:
Why the change to the 2.2 Litre?

emissions and stuff like that....

Jack

18th May 2011 10:13pm

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

Zagato wrote:
Why the change to the 2.2 Litre?

Ford costs reduction.

the 2.2 and 2.4 ARE THE SAME motors (only the stroke is different).....

On transit too they will use only the 2.2L so LESS PARTS TO MANAGE

2.4 will use on Ranger (bring to 2.5L) Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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19th May 2011 8:16am

NinetyTD4

Member Since: 22 Apr 2011
Location: North
Posts: 397

Move to 2.2l was inevitable, because these are the only engines being brought to Euro5 emission standards. It was speculated that the Defender will go there too after Ford announced in Brimingham in April that the Ford Transit will go 2.2l engines only and 2.4l will be discontinued completely.

But i am surprised topix shows the 2011 engine as being 140hp, as it is actually reduced to 122hp in the defender.

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19th May 2011 9:05am

mrandmrsh

Member Since: 31 May 2010
Location: Huddersfield
Posts: 692

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black

So someone who wants to buy a new Defender now needs to either get in quick to try and secure a 2.4 or hang back a few weeks to get the 2.2 depending on views on the relative merits and demerits of the engines.

I assume Defenders will keep their N1 status (commercial vehicle) in the uk regardless (although I am only really concerned about the Utility Wagon TBH).

Cheers
C

19th May 2011 9:06am

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

NinetyTD4 wrote:
Move to 2.2l was inevitable, because these are the only engines being brought to Euro5 emission standards. It was speculated that the Defender will go there too after Ford announced in Brimingham in April that the Ford Transit will go 2.2l engines only.

2.4L also is EU5 with DPF (see here in italy on transit 140CV), but for the EU emission rate we see the engine - vehicle system, not the only engine stand alone.

The Defender is more heavy respect the Transit ......

The problem is: Ford for engine assembly line optimization reasons will provide only the 2.2L and the volume of the Defender production (and London taxis) is too small for maintain the 2.4 prod. line alive.....

But 2.4 output capabilities are stronger than 2.2 (transit AWD -2011MY is provided only with the 2.4). Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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19th May 2011 9:15am

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

Anyway, the engine is the same and the differences will be so little that the Defender will not change character....

this is the new 2.2L

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19th May 2011 9:17am

gazellio

Member Since: 28 Apr 2011
Location: chilterns
Posts: 108

122 bhp is not a lot compared to the other models in the LR range. Is it enough to cope with heavy loads and long hills etc? What is the torque difference?

19th May 2011 9:24am

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