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Intercept



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Wiring into a dummy switch

Whilst furtling behind the console of my 2002 Td5 DCPU at the weekend I found this plugged into the back of a dummy switch amongst the 6 above the radio. If the switches were numbered 1-6 from left to right this was in #2. Based on the wire colour does anyone know here what this plug is/was for? Would it be for the rear window heater if this was a station wagon?




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Post #751236 14th Jan 2019 6:44pm
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rallysteve



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Heated rear window from memory.

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rallysteve



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Which usefully is wired all the way to the rear with a relay and fuse. Ideal for rear worklight or similar on a dcpu! 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab
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landy andy



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Yes I think it is. Wrong slot on the dash though.

Does this help.


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hank



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Exactly! See the following thread for the proper connector https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic65364.html to make up a patch lead!

Only slight annoying thing is that the heated rear screen dash light will illuminate when in use

I have done similar for my winch isolator using the rear wash wipe connector, see here https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic63641.html

You will need a rear heated screen switch, and if you want to be extra posh you can change the front for a work light switch front like this one https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=ht...3085133241 > 110 XS Double Cab
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rallysteve



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Easy enough to disable the HRW telltale in the binnacle though.

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Post #751275 14th Jan 2019 8:24pm
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Intercept



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Excellent - thanks everyone. An interior light above the rear tub and a worklight outside are now on the jobs list Smile

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hank



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rallysteve wrote:
Easy enough to disable the HRW telltale in the binnacle though.

Steve


Would appreciate if you can explain how? > 110 XS Double Cab
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Remove the pin from the instrument cluster connector would be my preferred way.

White with Black to pin 19.

Take care as there are a number of similar coloured wires in there.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top Cool
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hank



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Thank you Thumbs Up

Are there any specific pin removal tools required?
Same for the switch connectors below how are the pins removed?


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Intercept



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hank wrote:
for the switch connectors below how are the pins removed?

On some versions there is a flip-over bar which clamps onto all the wires - if present this needs to be flipped up. Then each of the contacts is held into the housing by a barb which can be released by pushing a fine jewelers' screwdriver into the gap above the contact metal i.e. don't poke the screwdriver down the pin hole. On Molex connectors you can access each barb from the side without any poke & hope, but these seem to be less friendly.

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hank wrote:
Are there any specific pin removal tools required?

Same for the switch connectors below how are the pins removed?



To release the terminals from a switch connector


Use a small screwdriver to open the hinged terminal lock, 1st side -


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And the 2nd side -


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Hinged terminal lock opened -


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Use a safety pin to lift the locking tab above the terminal -


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At the same time as lifting the locking tab, pull GENTLY on the terminal's wire -


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Terminal released from connector housing -


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Repeat for the other three terminals -


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With the terminals removed from connector housing, you can now easily see the terminal locking tabs above each terminal’s cavity -


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This animated cross-section shows what you are trying to do -




. Paul.
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It doesn't get any clearer or easier to follow than that, thanks Paul! Thumbs Up

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hank



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