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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2271   
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Just regrease my bearings and they were fine after 40000km. Driven with alloy+30mm spacer or 8" modular with 285s. Probably CV´s are more stressed if you adjust the turning circle. Puma 110" SW
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2nd Nov 2010 10:51am |
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| eutek Member Since: 03 Mar 2009 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 586  
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Thanks...
It wouldn't be for my 110, rather thinking of a 90. Mrs. eutek has started to drive the 110, and we're considering possibly replacing her Merc with a 90 in the future. Part of that however would be making the 90 slightly easier to drive. |
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2nd Nov 2010 11:42am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16933 
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Fitting spacers won't affect the bearings any more than fitting wheels with a greater offset would. It will in theory marginally increase bearing loads but only by an amount which is insignificant compared to the normal driving and vehicle usage loads.
Spacers - and wheels with greater offset - are (of course) normally fitted to restore the turning circle lost through the fitment of wider tyres. Fitting spacers in an attempt to reduce the turning circle with standard tyres is probably not such a good idea since doing so will result in the cv joints in the hub working at greater angles than they are designed to do. Whilst this may not be an immediate problem, it certainly increases the possibility of joint damage and trouble. |
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2nd Nov 2010 12:35pm |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363 
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I am thinking of adding spacers to my 90 with 265's on SVX rims. Any recommendations as to a good make and size?
Thanks. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS.. |
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2nd Nov 2010 1:13pm |
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| eutek Member Since: 03 Mar 2009 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 586
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Thanks for the detailed response blackwolf...
I'd rather not risk anything, so she'll just get used to the turning circle as it is.  |
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2nd Nov 2010 1:13pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16933
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I have 30mm spacers on my DC (which has 285/75 KL71s on standard Boost alloys) which I bought from Rakeway. They seem to be a top quality product, and the firm is well known for excellence in engineering. I chose these because I didn't want 'unbranded' ones, especially since on a fairly thin spacer like 30mm there isn't much material under the nuts; I wanted top quality, The 30mm spacers just keep the tyres under the wheel arch flares.
I bought them directly from Rakeway (phone no is on their website) and although I cannot remember the price it was significantly less than some of the ones you see advertised. I ordered them in the afternoon, paid by credit card over the phone, they arrived the next day. Excellent service. The guy I spoke to was also able to advise me re. the torques for the original and new studs (120 lbft to hold the spacers to the hub and the standard 98 lbft to hold the wheel to the spacer) and also stated categorically that the advice widely bandied about on other forums to use loctite on nuts holding the spacer to the hub is unnecessary and bad advice. Torque 'em down correctly and they don't need threadlocking. The Rakeway 30mm spacers (and possibly some of the other thinnish ones) come with the nuts to hold them to the hub. If you choose another make, it is worth checking if you need nuts. The ones supplied with mine look like standard LR nuts for steel wheels, but I am not sure if they are. Since fitting them I have had no balance issues, no vibration, and to date no problems of any kind (these all seem to come as free extras with cheap spacers)! |
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2nd Nov 2010 3:32pm |
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| toshers Member Since: 19 Sep 2010 Location: Inverurie Posts: 120 
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Another here to recommend Rakeway. I also have a set of their 30mm spacers fitted...excellent product & service.
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2nd Nov 2010 3:41pm |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363
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I will follow your advice and go for the Rakeway... Ta!! 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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2nd Nov 2010 3:51pm |
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| Sonic3d Member Since: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Ross on Wye Posts: 1505 
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I also had a set of Rakeway and can recommend them
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2nd Nov 2010 11:07pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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As with most Equipment it depends on the use of the vehicle. If you're doing a lot of desert corrugation then I would loctite every time. If mainly for road then torque would be enough in my experience
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2nd Nov 2010 11:13pm |
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| shingwell Member Since: 13 Mar 2009 Location: herefordshire Posts: 45
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I have a 130, but drove a 90 the other week. The turning circle seemed great!
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3rd Nov 2010 2:13am |
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| 110SEB Member Since: 29 Jan 2009 Location: Essex, England Posts: 1444 
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Is a turning circle an optional extra? I don't think our 110 has one
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3rd Nov 2010 8:29am |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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I have 30 mil spacers and 265 tyres and they make a massive difference to the turning circle. Some of the tracks I do have very tight corners, and without the spacers it makes life much tougher, particuarly if I have to reverse up very steep and loose ground or slippery rock to make a turn. If any of you know the Lakes lanes then Stile End in particular from the farm direction going up through the S bends, and Walna Scar (when it's open). Gatesgarth too can be tricky without spacers in a Puma if there is ice and snow. Mine were £164 inc vat from west coast.
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3rd Nov 2010 10:30am |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2271
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They are a must to turn on "mexican switches" in the Andes
Puma 110" SW
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3rd Nov 2010 10:46am |
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