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| JustFX Member Since: 10 Nov 2016 Location: Mendip Hills Posts: 190   
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A ratchet crimp tool for Uninsulated crimps should do the job. I bought a set with interchangeable anvils so I can use them for a variety of projects.
Something like this would do, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182613942170 The Connectors can be found on the bay for a few quid for 10 or so. Just have to wait for China delivery times.  |
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10th Jun 2017 12:13pm |
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| huffhuff Member Since: 05 May 2016 Location: Home Counties Posts: 379 
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Thanks. I have the usual red, blue and yellow ratchet crimper. Will dig it out and see if the anvils can be changed
Cheers TD5 Defender 90 Discovery 3 HSE |
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10th Jun 2017 12:17pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20833
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A pair of needlenose pliers would do the job just right.
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10th Jun 2017 12:37pm |
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| VeeTee Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1512 
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^ A special crimp tool like in the link from JustFX will do much better than a pair of needle nose pliers...
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10th Jun 2017 12:47pm |
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| Bushpig Member Since: 07 Nov 2013 Location: Risca, Wales Posts: 236  
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Indeed Steve, much much cheaper than the more specialized crimpers. Done all of mine with pliers Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
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10th Jun 2017 1:22pm |
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| huffhuff Member Since: 05 May 2016 Location: Home Counties Posts: 379
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Cheers all. Pliers it is
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Discovery 3 HSE |
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10th Jun 2017 2:27pm |
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| Thon Member Since: 22 Nov 2015 Location: Salisbury Plain Posts: 696
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If you want the connector to be as good as the manufacturer intended, then you should use a crimp tool that is recommended for the application.
Don't use any solder unless it is suggested in the fitting instructions - generally it will bind the cores together, preventing them from flexing correctly, which is not good for long term reliability. You may be able to make the crimp with pliers but it won't be as reliable as if you used the correct tool. |
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10th Jun 2017 3:11pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20833
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👍🏻 You can solder too, but I wouldn't on small wires as you can get extreme heat build up very fast and scortch the insulation. I did mine with pliers and have never ever had an issue. You do need to be careful and precise though. I like Superseal connectors, very effective seal and easy to unplug. _\Hennessey|Venom| F5/___
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10th Jun 2017 3:13pm |
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| huffhuff Member Since: 05 May 2016 Location: Home Counties Posts: 379
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Cheers all. Will put it on the list for tomorrow
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Discovery 3 HSE |
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10th Jun 2017 4:26pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17781 
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If you want a good durable connection you'll heed the advice of Thon. |
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10th Jun 2017 8:57pm |
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| huffhuff Member Since: 05 May 2016 Location: Home Counties Posts: 379
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Ok. I'm in no rush. Who can find me the cheapest/best crimper that will do the job on eBay or Amazon
TD5 Defender 90
Discovery 3 HSE |
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10th Jun 2017 9:06pm |
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| PaulMc Member Since: 17 Jan 2009 Location: Kent Posts: 508 
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Pliers and soldering are not the way to go
There's a Durite ratchet crimping tool, designed for Superseal and Econoseal terminals, which crimps the conductor and wire seal in one operation - It's available on ebay and from several auto electrical suppliers. The cheapest I've found is from Autoelectricsupplies - https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/922/category/87 You can make an acceptable crimp on Superseal and Econoseal terminals, with the cheapo crimping tool for non insulated terminals -
Here are a couple of Econoseal terminals that I crimped to 1.0mm² cable, using the above tools - The terminal on the Black wire was done with the Durite ratchet crimper. The terminal on the Blue wire was done with the cheapo crimper, using a combination of the smallest crimping die (1.25mm) for the conductor, and the cable stripper die (5.5mm) for the wire seal. Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Edited to fix Photobucket's ransom demands 
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10th Jun 2017 11:52pm |
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| huffhuff Member Since: 05 May 2016 Location: Home Counties Posts: 379
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Thanks Paul, very thorough reply
I'll look at getting a legit crimping tool. Any excuse to fill up the toolbox... TD5 Defender 90 Discovery 3 HSE |
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12th Jun 2017 9:32am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11325
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I recently swapped all of the lights on mine from the originals with bullet connectors to the more modern ones that use Econseal connectors. As I had a lot to do, I invested in a proper crimp tool like this:
Click image to enlarge It wasn't expensive from eBay but is sooo much better at making crimped joints. I'll never faff around with pliers again. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia Last edited by LandRoverAnorak on 6th Aug 2017 3:19pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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