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Rashers

Member Since: 21 Jun 2015
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3341

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

It actually amazes me there is still the amount of choice of head units after the major motor manufacturers integrated their radio / cd / mp3 into the dash boards.

Most modern vehicles are almost impossible to retro fit single din / double din head units without a) making it look a dogs dinner and b) losing some or a load of functionality ?

I suppose, apart from Defenders, there is still a market in Trucks, Tractors and Plant equipment for these head units?

7th May 2017 6:27pm

sako243

Member Since: 08 Jul 2014
Location: Wales
Posts: 1186

1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White

Me me me, I have a CAD system, even one better I have a 3d printer. Hopefully the 3d printer is on the way back from Wales tomorrow (long story but basically you can blame my sister's hockey ball for it).

Unfortunately I don't have the time at the moment (just started stripping the front of the 110 to rebuild the dumb irons).

Maybe in a week or four...

Oh and I've thought about doing this unfortunately for a 300Tdi :p Ed
82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6
95 Defender 110 300Tdi

7th May 2017 7:10pm

Miggit

Member Since: 09 Mar 2017
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 72

You can still get them, they are just trying to punt the double din units cos they is cheaper to build... which more than can be said for the dash conversion for the Defender

How Much?? .... Err I only want the double din dash adaptor, I have already brought the car!

RRC 2.4 TD... it's either a stretched 90 or shrunken 110!!
ML 270CDI

8th May 2017 9:50am

Riverboy

Member Since: 16 May 2016
Location: French sector, Earth
Posts: 1288

2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Corris Grey

I paid £1040 ex VAT for my double din conversion. That included a top of the range Pioneer head unit, DAB aerial, facia plate and all work which I thought was very reasonable.

8th May 2017 10:43am

Miggit

Member Since: 09 Mar 2017
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 72

..... I've just picked myself up off the floor...... That's Range Rover Price territory, and I'm talking factory not aftermarket..

On fullfatrr.com there was a massive debate on what to replace the factory unit(s)(there are 6 in most setups) with, about 95% went for the cheap as chip Ping Pong specials running on the logic that if they went wrong after a few years, you could replace it with like for like quite a few times before you got into Alpine / Pioneer price territory... in fact it's around 3.5 to 1, so assuming that you get 2 years out of one.. how long are you going to keep the car for? 7 years + then quality is probably worth the investment, but if the answer is only a few years then it's not...

And to be honest I have an Alpine 2Din head unit in my Mercedes, and I'm not totally convinced that it's worth all the extra expense.. for a kick off almost everything is an option and has to be added on... the Chinese units come almost fully loaded.. The biggest single headache is the conversion, but once it's up and running it's all good!!

In fact I've stuffed one (Ping Pong special) in the RRC!!

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RRC 2.4 TD... it's either a stretched 90 or shrunken 110!!
ML 270CDI

8th May 2017 12:12pm

meeerrrk

Member Since: 12 Feb 2017
Location: Surrey
Posts: 548

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey

Been trying to decide if I should go double din or single fold out.

Double din more options, but an irreversible modification. Screen position not ideal as mentioned above.

Single din, limited choice of units, hazard switch difficult to press when deployed. Neat solution and reversible. Slightly more security concious. Cheaper than double din conversion. Screen position slightly better than double din.

I purchased a clarion fold out used from this site, for about £100 I am trying it out. So far so good, I think I'm swaying toward fold out!

Click image to enlarge My 90 Project : http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic52774.html

8th May 2017 1:40pm

Miggit

Member Since: 09 Mar 2017
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 72

Would it not be possible to relocate the switches to the side position but use a single din unit? surely that would be the best option

I have made some interesting discoveries googling DA2609

RRC 2.4 TD... it's either a stretched 90 or shrunken 110!!
ML 270CDI

8th May 2017 4:36pm

X4SKP

Member Since: 29 Nov 2013
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2287

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

I have the Kenwood 526DVD (now discontinued) but the principle is a good one...
(all considered with the standard arrangements for a Puma Dash)...

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Single Din Unit

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Screen (on top of unit) deploys outwards and then lifts up from the rear...

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All usual features...

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Unit allows fine adjustment of the 'parking position' of the Display... In / Out and Angle

Semi obscured buttons can be pressed (although not ideal)...but one button press to send
Display 'home' within Dash, maintaining any current function

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limited choice of vehicles for the Sat Nav...but 'Jeep' like option is OK SKIP
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html

8th May 2017 6:44pm

meeerrrk

Member Since: 12 Feb 2017
Location: Surrey
Posts: 548

That looks like a nice unit Skip. My 90 Project : http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic52774.html

8th May 2017 7:30pm

RockJaw

Member Since: 15 Oct 2013
Location: United States
Posts: 317

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Santorini Black

What's wrong with seicane?

https://www.seicane.com/android-radio-gps-...sd-s168600 ****CENSORED****

11th Oct 2017 1:45pm

blackrock

Member Since: 01 May 2022
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 57

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Firenze Red

Re: Alternative Double Din Dash

Grenadier wrote:
Andrew S did this with a computer screen, but has anyone taken it to the next level? I'm not a fan of the standard double Din position, too low imho, and think this would be a much cleaner option.

Any details about this computer? I'm thinking of putting a computer somewhere for satnav and maybe some other stuff. it'd be nice to see some that are already done. Maybe a Raspberry Pi running open street map maps.

Andrew

21st Jun 2022 5:35am

Mo Murphy

Member Since: 01 Jun 2008
Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts
Posts: 2078

1984 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Pennine Grey

Would using a tablet not be easier ? I use a tablet in mine, not integrated but on a Ram mount. Does satnav, other mapping, spotify etc. It's an easy off the shelf solution.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

21st Jun 2022 9:37am

blackrock

Member Since: 01 May 2022
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 57

I had thought of using a tablet, but quite like the flexibility that a computer would give me. Satnav would have to be a GPS module plus probably open streetmap, which means updates to maps are easy. You also have the possibility of adding CAN to it, and a reversing camera display. It does require programming though.

Andrew

21st Jun 2022 9:39pm

matchap801

Member Since: 05 Aug 2021
Location: Somerset
Posts: 120

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver

I purchased a double din dash from eBay for Â£75. Then an ATOTO F7 SE double din car play stereo from Amazon.
Took a bit of fettling but fit into the Landy really nicely. Great screen. CarPlay and android auto works a treat. 2009 Defender 90 CSW 2.4 TDCI.
Ex Army Mechanic still living the dream.

21st Jun 2022 10:38pm

Jeebs

Member Since: 23 Oct 2015
Location: North West
Posts: 197

1995 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Barolo Black

blackrock wrote:
I had thought of using a tablet, but quite like the flexibility that a computer would give me. Satnav would have to be a GPS module plus probably open streetmap, which means updates to maps are easy. You also have the possibility of adding CAN to it, and a reversing camera display. It does require programming though.

Andrew

You may find that this would fall foul of the Con and Use regs, specifically:

109.â€”(1) No person shall drive, or cause or permit to be driven, a motor vehicle on a road, if the driver is in such a position as to be able to see, whether directly or by reflection, a television receiving apparatus or other cinematographic apparatus used to display anything other than informationâ€”
(a) about the state of the vehicle or its equipment;

(b) about the location of the vehicle and the road on which it is located;

(c) to assist the driver to see the road adjacent to the vehicle; or

(d) to assist the driver to reach his destination.

(2) In this regulation â€œtelevision receiving apparatusâ€ means any cathode ray tube carried on a vehicle and on which there can be displayed an image derived from a television broadcast, a recording or a camera or computer.

23rd Jun 2022 5:12pm

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