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pob1968



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Wheel arch extensions, are protruding wheels / tyres policed
As title, I just fitted some new wheels and tyres which stick out a little, should I be worried about being pulled over by the police for wheels sticking out further than the body? I know I will get a bit of spray up the body but they only stick out about an inch further than the wheel arches. 110 Hardtop

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Post #330609 12th May 2014 7:44pm
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ickle



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France 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White
The tread or sidewall protrudes?

I'm running 285's BFG AT's on 0mm offset 8j rims and the sidewalls protrude about an inch, but when viewed from above, the tread is covered and not had a single problem with Police or MOT

Keith
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Depends on perspective. Do they stick out an inch above the top of the arches or just at the tapered ends? Had no mither with mine at all. MOT not an issue. Have a look in my gallery. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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pob1968



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Hi, its at least an inch, the tread is at least an inch so maybe the total is more like 2 or 2 and a half inches. I have 265 tyres on Black steel modulars. I like the look and dont want to fit arch extensions unless I have to. Just wondering if I will get away with it. 110 Hardtop
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K9F



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If you yourself are wondering maybe that answers your question? Run it by your local MOT/Dealership they'll put you right. Mine refused to roadtest mine due to their spin on the legality but mine don't protrude at the top of the arch. Tread protrusion isn't acceptable apparently, sidewall is. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!


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ickle



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I'm a bit baffled how you can get a 265 to stick out 2" past the wheel arches?

0mm offset modulars and 30mm spacers??

Do you have any photos?
Post #330653 12th May 2014 8:55pm
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custom90



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As a rule of thumb any protrusion beyond the arches is meant to be a no go.
Looking down directly from above to the floor, think plumb bob kinda idea.
If it's marginally out it probably won't be noticed.
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pob1968



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Hi, no, no spacers, perhaps I ought to take some piccies Smile maybe I am worrying unduly. 110 Hardtop
Post #330657 12th May 2014 8:58pm
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Cuthbert



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To find out how legal you are ................ All you need to do is drive past a revenue officer who has spent most of his shift sitting in a layby eating donuts and hasn't hit his daily target for issuing fixed penalty tickets .......
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Hello pob1968

I looked into this when buying my 90 as it has been fitted with 275 60R20 Cooper Zeon LTZ tyres
on Land Rover LRX wheels and they project beyond the wheel arches.


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90 Wheel Arch

I checked with VOSA and even tried the DVLA Laughing , it was not a clear story Exclamation eventually
I went with the 90 to my MOT station and got one interpretation of the rules.

The on-line info I found also just didn't make it clear.

I was told at the MOT station, (but don't know for sure that this is correct) that the tread pattern on the part of the tyre that makes contact with the road, must not project more than 30mm from the TDC (top dead centre) of the wheel arch.

The side wall will project more than the tread pattern and doesn't count.

The tread pattern that partially goes round onto the side wall doesn't count.

I looked into this question thinking that any projection beyond any bodywork was not allowed.

The 90 passed its 1st MOT (not at the MOT station I attended) with exactly the arrangement you see here.
The wheels are fitted on spacers that also give the 120mm stud PCD. It would be possible to reduce these spacers (or replace them) to take the wheel further inboard, the wheel itself has an ET50 offset spacing.


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20" LRX Wheels

Someone on here may be able to add to this...but currently I think I am legal Thumbs Up

Another Option...

I have managed to import from Canada a set of reinforced rubber 1.25 inch Pacer wheel arch extensions that are being assessed currently (I am edging towards fitting them Exclamation ) as any tyre protrusion will cover the side of your Defender with what ever you drive through, I live a little off the beaten track so its currently not ideal.

If you are significantly beyond the wheel arches, I would say you may have an issue. SKIP
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pob1968



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Thanks fellas, thanks Skip, mine are like yours so I am sure it will be fine Smile 110 Hardtop
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What puddle?



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Mine are almost like that too, and it's just passed its MoT test.

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 Now left.
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pob1968



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Thanks guys, your photos look similar to mine Smile 110 Hardtop
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Leenorthants



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If you do get pulled, and they decide to rule against you, that's 3 points per corner, so bye bye licence. Or worse still you have an accident, the police confiscate your vehicle due to the tyres and your insurance will then walk away!
Post #332854 22nd May 2014 8:28pm
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ickle



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France 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White
Why would you get three points per corner? As long as the tyres are legal (tread depth / damage/ load rating / speed rating etc) there isn't a problem with the tyres at all.

You can't get points for defective wheel arches unless they're sharpened to razors and likely to cause injury to a pedestrian!

Keith
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