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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6346   
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so before you all bury your heads in your hands .....I'm not just about to moan about anything.
well so long as I can hurry up and write this before the urge to overwhelms me. 
just wondering - when I start the car sometimes the engine seems lively and eager to start up (as I would expect with a modern unit). this isn't always the case and I'd foolishly thought the reason its doesn't always seem eager to spin up might be related to the shoe dragging on the drum brake (clearly this cant' be the case). so to the clutch. who depresses the clutch when starting the car  cough plutter .... you see the chap next door has an identical motor to mine and HE depresses the clutch - that led me to wonder if maybe thats a problem due to the clutch being connected to the ecu which I understand reduces torq etc.
so is HE a muppet depressing the clutch when starting up or does it not matter. I've always done this on other cars. clearly I wouldn't dream of doing it on this one. do I need to go and have a word with him?  Last edited by Caterham on 14th May 2015 9:32pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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22nd Jul 2013 12:38pm |
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| borderterrier Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1677  
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I dip the clutch on every car I start
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22nd Jul 2013 12:46pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6686 
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Depressing the clutch reduces the load on the engine (gearbox drag).
Can't say off the top of my head if I do or don't, I probably do   1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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22nd Jul 2013 12:49pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6346
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thats exactly why I depress the clutch when starting - to reduce load etc.
just wondering tho if on the defender if it makes a difference having the clutch switch? |
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22nd Jul 2013 12:59pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6686
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I doubt there's a different starting strategy depending on whether the clutch is depressed or not
1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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22nd Jul 2013 1:32pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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I do for the reasons stated. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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22nd Jul 2013 1:32pm |
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| Simon27 Member Since: 30 Oct 2012 Location: East Lothian Posts: 131  
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I would need to check, but I think I read in the manual that it's to reduce the stress on the starter motor. And yes, I always depress it when starting.
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22nd Jul 2013 1:38pm |
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| AndyS Member Since: 18 Aug 2012 Location: London Posts: 597 
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The book says depress the clutch so yes, I depress it.
I had an RG500 that I couldn't get started at all, tried and tried but the engine wouldn't turn over (kick start). The shop owner came out and started it first kick, no issues at all. Turned out I was pulling in the clutch which disengaged the kick start, shop owner left it out and it started. |
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22nd Jul 2013 1:40pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6346
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I'm sure one of the cars I had previously suggested you shouldn't.....I still did.
presumably the ecu / clutch switchy thing doesn't come into play when starting the engine - or at least it makes no difference? |
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22nd Jul 2013 1:42pm |
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| Norm4n Member Since: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 329
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Habit for me, as I always leave it in gear (the hand brake is cack
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22nd Jul 2013 1:48pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2673  
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I always start a manual vehicle with the clutch in
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22nd Jul 2013 2:04pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8341  
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i always depress the clutch in any vehicle fitted with one. Cheers
James 110 2010 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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22nd Jul 2013 2:15pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17877 
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I always depress the clutch when starting or stopping the engine, force of habit.
I also always leave cars in gear. In a peculiarly old-fashioned way I also point the wheels at the kerb when parking on a hill, like we used to be taught to do back in the, er, seventies, when I took my test! |
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22nd Jul 2013 2:27pm |
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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1264
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I always put the clutch in....more for safety than anything.
good habit to get into. Helps when other car (a BMW) wont start untill clutch is in Now BMW know a thing or two about engines..so it cant be a bad thing Clemmo |
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22nd Jul 2013 2:30pm |
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