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| 3WHouse Member Since: 24 Jan 2008 Location: Msk Posts: 70   
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offtop:
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23rd Nov 2009 8:10pm |
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| Gabriel Boff Member Since: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 95  
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Hi all!
Two questions! - Some problem in motor function in a puma,(loss of power......) fitting an Mantec Rai, but the "mushroom" type? (I just hated the design off the plastic jobby much modern for a Defender!) - In a puma Defender, how deep I can go whith all the eletronic of the motor? (I just don't understand how a Defender can do just 500mm of water crossing?!?!?!?! just because the SHI!!#$#@%@#%@ of eletronic motor!!!!!) Sorry about the bad english! regards |
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31st Dec 2009 6:46pm |
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| Mad Cow Member Since: 27 Oct 2009 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 292  
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Much deeper than 500mm and you risk floating and loosing traction.
Also it is approximately the distance to the top of the wheel rim, so easy to judge. But that said, I have driven several vehicles well beyond this depth both with and without raised intakes without any mishaps, driving technique has a lot to do with successful fording. OK I say no mishaps but my V8 Disco used to die about ten minutes after leaving the water, due to steam condensing in the distributor - easily cured with WD40 but very embarasing when you are half way across a road junction at the time 
Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  MAD COW
2007 90 Hard Top - 2009 BMW F800GS - 2002 CCM 604E Dual Sport Project90 |
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2nd Jan 2010 5:17pm |
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| Gabriel Boff Member Since: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 95
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OK!, I had already had this problems, but how about what they did in Camel Trophyes??? New Defender aren't capable to do that? Land Rover get worst instead of getting better??
Not that I will do it, but it will be great if I know that the vehicle IS capable or not. regards!!! |
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2nd Jan 2010 11:53pm |
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| Gabriel Boff Member Since: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 95
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Really helped a lot!
And what to do with the big box behind the engine under the hood, it is waterproof??? I think that this big bos is the ECU of the puma engine regards |
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3rd Jan 2010 12:34am |
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| Mad Cow Member Since: 27 Oct 2009 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 292
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Certainly no electronics under my seat just a fuse box and a relay?
I know that's where the TD5 ECU lived but the TD4/Puma/TDCI seems to have it fited behind the engine. Not sure how you might relocate it from there? MAD COW 2007 90 Hard Top - 2009 BMW F800GS - 2002 CCM 604E Dual Sport Project90 |
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5th Jan 2010 9:07pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707  
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The engine ECU is located at the back of the engine bolted to the bulkhead. Apparently its waterproof.
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5th Jan 2010 11:22pm |
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| T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101 
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dunno if i'll fit one on the 110.
a cage yes! |
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5th Jan 2010 11:39pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Just ordered a Safari Snorkel! Choice was made after much deliberation....Wanted the slightly more 'aggressive' look over the Mantec. Thing I'm worried about slightly is the fact my 'bag of excuses' is entirely empty.
I picked up on something Fekete said.... Here is my prototype excuse.... "Due to the fact my wheels protrude and I get alot of water spray in the wet, I need' to get a snorkel fitted to prevent water ingress into the air filtration system." What d'you reckon?????.... Any better ones gratefully accepted....Got til next Friday to come up with a corker!  
In fact I may start a thread!!!! Here it is: http://www.defender2.net/forum/post32759.html#32759 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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22nd May 2010 9:28am |
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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626 
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K9, I'm down Friday i'll give you all the backing you need
 NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY |
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22nd May 2010 11:36am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Spent last night fitting my Safari Snorkel. Must have checked the template and fitment half a dozen times before finally drilling the wing and the pillar. Couple of points to make for any other individuals who may be considering fitment.....
The three holes you drill in the wing, the instructions state drill out to 16mm. You are only fitting 8mm studs, this is to facilitate alignment. If you are careful with 'marking out' and 'offering the snorkel to the vehicle' after drilling out to 10mm the holes need be no larger than 10 or 12mm at most (mine are 12mm). For 'control' and to reduce the likelihood of slipping or making a high speed mistake I used a handbrace drill, bit more arduous but worth the end result. Accessability is also an issue to the lower two mounting bolts....Didn't want to run the risk of breaking the wheel arch flare plastic securing rivets so worked round removing the flare. Got there through perseverance and alot of profanities.... Allow at least an extra hour above the two hours stated fitment time. I 'wet assembled' the mounting bolts using a clear silicon double glazing sealant (used enough to refloat the Russian submarine The Kursk) by 'wet assembling' you need not paint the holes you have drilled allowing you to fit straight away instead of waiting for paint finishes to dry. I also spent an hour masking off the entire unit when fitted and applied a neat bead of sealant round the entire unit base where it sits on the wing. This will prevent ingress of anything at all (moisture/grit) being thrown up from my Carlos Fandango wheels in future. Will post some pictures up at weekend but am really pleased with the 'Tonka Toy look!' (hope Red Dot reads this). If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! Last edited by K9F on 26th May 2010 11:30am. Edited 2 times in total |
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25th May 2010 9:30am |
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| lrdxb110 Member Since: 09 Jul 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 224  
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^^
I could never drill in my defender so I got my stealers to do it for me, very nice of them not to charge labour, ordered the part from local LR dealer in london and shipped it to dubai, saved me paying nearly double the price here Never good at this DIY stuff Get some pics on tomorrow. '08 LR Defender 110
'08 Mini Cooper S - Sidewalk '86 MB 500 SL '79 MB 450SEL 6.9 |
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25th May 2010 9:46pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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You were lucky not to get charged! Going rate must be £80 - £100 per hour over here (guessing) and at two hours to fit it becomes double the price of buying it! With regards to drilling and fitment I do it myself because I know I will do a much better job! After all I would pay attention to detail and do a perfect job! Why? Simply because it's my own vehicle! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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26th May 2010 9:46am |
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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266
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don't forget a RAI isn't water tight like a snorkle
2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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26th May 2010 10:03am |
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