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Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6485 |
The best priced thinwall cable I've found is on eBay.
1mm^2 thinwall is rated at 16A so that looks correct. The fusebox/relay end is the most tricky, correct, but worth the effort. I'd give you a hand if you were a little closer 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top 2015 D90 XS SW |
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16th Aug 2012 7:05pm |
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K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 |
"Molex Crimping Tool" is the correct terminology. They are not cheap and if you know someone in the trade or has access to one a 'loaner' is the best and cheapest option. With care and patience you can very carefully use a small pair of needlenose pliers to crimp the crimps. The two tabs at the rear have to be rolled around the insulation which can be fiddly. Buy extra Molex crimps and practice first. If you have a decent motorcycle shop and or electrical workshop near you you may be able to 'borrow' a tool with a suitable contribution. I did initially. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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16th Aug 2012 7:23pm |
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RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 31 Mar 2010 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 2015 |
Any tips on what connectors to purchase for the fuse box end? I have the other bits and cable earmarked now.
I read that thread from PaulMC and the detailed photos but he doesn't give away what the connectors are called or who makes them. i.e these: Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated 2016 D4 HSE 1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF 1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol |
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16th Aug 2012 7:24pm |
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RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 31 Mar 2010 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 2015 |
K9F,
Are Molex crimps also known as uninsulated terminals? My budget crimpers have slots for uninsulated. With practice I could probably do a decent job, I'm not a ham fisted oaf 2016 D4 HSE 1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF 1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol |
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16th Aug 2012 7:26pm |
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Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6485 |
Adam - I may have a fuse box terminal kicking around somewhere but I would have to find it first 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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16th Aug 2012 7:27pm |
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RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 31 Mar 2010 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 2015 |
If the fuse box end gets tricky I guess I could resort to an in-line 20A blade fuse instead? 2016 D4 HSE
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16th Aug 2012 7:30pm |
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Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6485 |
Yes but you still need to feed it from somewhere ignition switched 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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16th Aug 2012 7:34pm |
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deep down Member Since: 02 May 2012 Location: France Posts: 204 |
Have a look at these. I've used them before, they work quite well.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Add-A-Circuit-Fu...2a14b1c2ff Allows you to add to the existing fusebox without splicing into anything. As long as you're not overloading the main incoming supply. |
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16th Aug 2012 7:41pm |
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K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 |
NO! Budget pliers are no good. Below is a picture of the type of plier jaws you need. The 'W' or 'M' shape in the jaws is what bends the two rear tabs to grip the insulation. Click image to enlarge If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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16th Aug 2012 7:42pm |
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PaulMc Member Since: 17 Jan 2009 Location: Kent Posts: 488 |
They're Grote & Hartmann (now owned by the Lear Corporation) AFK terminals. I can supply them for £0.50 each. I have them to suit three different cable sizes. More details in my post here - http://www.defender2.net/forum/post96207.html#96207 That post also gives details on how to insert them into the fuse box. I can also supply the Black and Green 5-way switch connectors (the TD5 Defender uses a LH and a RH heated seat switch, one uses the Black connector, the other uses the Green connector). I can also supply the proper seatbox male connector to mate with the connector on the trailing lead from the heated seat. You can crimp most of these terminals with an el-cheapo non-insulated crimper, such as the D1 from VWP, or the TT70 from Polevolt. But for small terminals found in MQS connectors (heated seat seatbox connectors), you really do need a more specialised crimp tool. I can supply the seatbox MQS connectors pre-crimped to 0.75mm² cable of whatever length you require. Wiring between the heated seat switches and the seatbox connectors is 0.75mm², which is the largest cable size that these connectors will accomodate. . Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Paul. 1989 Arles Blue 2.5TD 110 Hardtop 1999 Epsom Green Discovery II 4.0 V8i 'XS' |
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16th Aug 2012 7:46pm |
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Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6485 |
If I can't find a fuse box terminal then Ref: 3-8441/10 here looks likely http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/Termina...tions.html 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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16th Aug 2012 7:46pm |
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PaulMc Member Since: 17 Jan 2009 Location: Kent Posts: 488 |
Polevolts 3-4647 is a closer match - http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/Single_Fuse_Holders.html ...and fits perfectly. I used to use these for TD5 fuse boxes. . Paul. 1989 Arles Blue 2.5TD 110 Hardtop 1999 Epsom Green Discovery II 4.0 V8i 'XS' |
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16th Aug 2012 8:00pm |
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Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6485 |
Cheers Paul 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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16th Aug 2012 8:05pm |
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RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 31 Mar 2010 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 2015 |
Paul,
YOu know your onions Would you be willing to put together and price up a little kit to wire these in? I already have the 5 way switch connectors on order. If so can you PM me a price for the male MQS connector to go directly onto the heated seat trailing leads (x2 obviously) pre crimped with say a metre each? I can solder the wires and heatshrink no problem. Also, some 0.75mm cable long enough to enable me to wire them up going via the floor panels Some AFK Terminals x 10 so I have some spares Knowing I have all the bits to complete the job would be great. 2016 D4 HSE 1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF 1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol |
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16th Aug 2012 8:24pm |
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