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mrandmrsh

Member Since: 31 May 2010
Location: Huddersfield
Posts: 692

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black

I was all ready to fit spacers (even got the NFU to agree to cover them at no charge) to my 110 on standard wheels n tyres. Read this and climbed under car and screwed in the bump stops and the difference without any change other than tightening up a couple of bolts - it feels like a different vehicle altogether.

On 235s I have adjusted the stops so there's around a fingers' space between the control arm and the wheel on full lock.

My question is if I fit spacers how much more can I adjust the stops safely without risk of damage to the vehicle?

C 2015 110 USW XS in Santorini with premium contrast leather seats in tan/black, black headlining and with Dual Finish alloys (in the garage, now on Wolf rims with Goodyear MT/Rs)

2012 '62' 2.2 X-Tech 110 USW now gone ...
1984 90 soft top with full roll cage, 200 tdi engine etc now sold
2012 USW XS 2.2 "FUU" now gone....

1st Jun 2012 1:32pm

xatzhs

Member Since: 12 Dec 2010
Location: Northumberland & Down South
Posts: 258

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

Laurie wrote:
Ideally put the front axle on stands.
Turn the wheel to full lock (without the engine running)
The stops are bolts with locknuts mounted on the rear of the swivel housings.
Screw them in until the tyres just miss the radius arms.
Then recheck with the engine running.

Is it essential to have them on axle stands? Is it easy/safe enough to do it without?

2nd Jun 2012 12:44pm

bm52

Member Since: 04 Apr 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 2189

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana

xatzhs wrote:
Laurie wrote:
Ideally put the front axle on stands.
Turn the wheel to full lock (without the engine running)
The stops are bolts with locknuts mounted on the rear of the swivel housings.
Screw them in until the tyres just miss the radius arms.
Then recheck with the engine running.

Is it essential to have them on axle stands? Is it easy/safe enough to do it without?

I would not even contemplate this task without stands

BM52

2nd Jun 2012 2:48pm

mrandmrsh

Member Since: 31 May 2010
Location: Huddersfield
Posts: 692

bm52 wrote:
xatzhs wrote:
Laurie wrote:
Ideally put the front axle on stands.
Turn the wheel to full lock (without the engine running)
The stops are bolts with locknuts mounted on the rear of the swivel housings.
Screw them in until the tyres just miss the radius arms.
Then recheck with the engine running.

Is it essential to have them on axle stands? Is it easy/safe enough to do it without?

I would not even contemplate this task without stands

All I did was crawl under the car as it was stood on the ground with the steering straight and screwed one side in then moved car back and fwd on full lock to see if I had gone too far/far enough. Then same with the other side. Done. No jacks, no stands just two 19mm spanners.

C 2015 110 USW XS in Santorini with premium contrast leather seats in tan/black, black headlining and with Dual Finish alloys (in the garage, now on Wolf rims with Goodyear MT/Rs)

2012 '62' 2.2 X-Tech 110 USW now gone ...
1984 90 soft top with full roll cage, 200 tdi engine etc now sold
2012 USW XS 2.2 "FUU" now gone....

3rd Jun 2012 11:50pm

familymad

Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 3465

2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black

I believe it's another big difference to the circle with 30mm spacers and why I'm considering them. The wife will be even more impressed.......... 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI

11th Jun 2012 10:03pm

mrandmrsh

Member Since: 31 May 2010
Location: Huddersfield
Posts: 692

familymad wrote:
I believe it's another big difference to the circle with 30mm spacers and why I'm considering them. The wife will be even more impressed..........

Question for me is how much more can you safely wind the lock stops in over and above a standard car on standard alloys with standard 235 tyres?

If I was on 265 tyres I would think spacers would be critical but I am just not sure how much more you will get on standard set-up.

Would love to know.

C 2015 110 USW XS in Santorini with premium contrast leather seats in tan/black, black headlining and with Dual Finish alloys (in the garage, now on Wolf rims with Goodyear MT/Rs)

2012 '62' 2.2 X-Tech 110 USW now gone ...
1984 90 soft top with full roll cage, 200 tdi engine etc now sold
2012 USW XS 2.2 "FUU" now gone....

12th Jun 2012 12:10pm

familymad

Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 3465

Someone will answer this I'm sure but if I put a 30mm offset on the wheels (using spacers) I would hope to be able to wind in the stops by the same amount again 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI

12th Jun 2012 9:36pm

ZeDefender

Member Since: 15 Sep 2011
Location: Munich
Posts: 4731

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Baltic Blue

I used to have 235s on Boosts (ET33 offset) with 30mm spacers and adjusted stop - awesome improvement

Now I have 265s on Dotz Dakar rims with ET8 offset, no spacers and adjusted stops = almost as good.

Zus have ET11 offset, so with no spacers and 235s or 265s and adjusted stop they should also be a good improvement over factory. Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...

12th Jun 2012 11:35pm

T1G UP

Member Since: 08 Dec 2009
Location: Bath
Posts: 3101

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Orkney Grey

mine rubs as i've wound the stops right in.

i cn turn round ok now

12th Jun 2012 11:38pm

Maxxed_Ross

Member Since: 06 Jun 2012
Location: Bathgate / North Sea
Posts: 340

Mine rubs when you turn left but not right... sounds like my stops are set a bit wonky then

Handy thread this one

13th Jun 2012 2:05am

xtreme

Member Since: 05 Jul 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 24

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Sumatra Black

mrandmrsh wrote:
bm52 wrote:
xatzhs wrote:
Laurie wrote:
Ideally put the front axle on stands.
Turn the wheel to full lock (without the engine running)
The stops are bolts with locknuts mounted on the rear of the swivel housings.
Screw them in until the tyres just miss the radius arms.
Then recheck with the engine running.

Is it essential to have them on axle stands? Is it easy/safe enough to do it without?

I would not even contemplate this task without stands

All I did was crawl under the car as it was stood on the ground with the steering straight and screwed one side in then moved car back and fwd on full lock to see if I had gone too far/far enough. Then same with the other side. Done. No jacks, no stands just two 19mm spanners.

C

Did the same today, car 2 days old! Difference incredible!!! Thanks!

5th Jul 2012 6:09pm

sparkylee

Member Since: 06 Nov 2010
Location: surrey
Posts: 1455

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Santorini Black

Had 30 mm spacers fitted and stops done Tuesday wow what a difference almost drive-able in car parks now

It's good to be back from the dark side

DC110 -2012 Black with black hood and black x-tech
FFRR 4.2 vogue
Renault traffic auto
PT crusier convertible
Laika x700 Motorhome

5th Jul 2012 7:32pm

big steve

Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Montalcino Red

im running 35 inch simex with no rubbing

and it turn great

can get right round a mini roundabout easy

steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build

5th Jul 2012 8:57pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 19608

How about if the stops are set equally already counting the turns exactly and equally on both sides surely that would do the same as well. And just check after it's not over done.. If it is reapeat but anti clockwise. I yet have to have a go at this yet. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧

5th Jul 2012 9:36pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 19608

Finally got round to checking and adjusting the steering lock stops today but I find that it's pretty much to the maximum I'd be happy to have it already. I can't help but think having it to close is not a good idea after all when tyre's are muddy it will bind between the tyre and the radius arm and if you were un-lucky enough to get a small stone in that gap it wouldn't be good so I'm leaving mine alone. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧

15th Jul 2012 12:22pm

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