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Glynparry25



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Wales 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green
................and the debate goes on...... and on..........and on......... Maybe M/T and A/T tyre discussions are sponsored by Duracell.

I have driven BFG muds (old style) for the past 5 years.

Off-road..... I decided on these after my first off-road experience with A/Ts...... same route with the muds and the Discovery breezed it.

Noise...... Between M/T and A/T.... over the sound of the Defender engine and wind noise....... I can barely tell the difference.... besides that is what the radio is for Wink

Price..... They are the same.

When I go off-road I like to be confident in the equipment I have. With A/Ts I would be concerned about loosing traction in the really gloopy stuf which will then make me less confident...... So why not go for Simex JTs or ETs? I like to be able to cruise on the road at good speeds without the whirling noise like there is a helicopter following just over you.

Through personal experience I would say go for the Muds- you won't be disappointed.

Glyn Dog Sheep
Post #122681 9th Feb 2012 3:13pm
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GREENI



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I just have AT's, 'twas my choice, I would have MT's and have had them before ...they both rule ! Thumbs Up
Wants and needs Wink (in a cough stylee 'leeds')
Post #122684 9th Feb 2012 3:24pm
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ken



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Good Year Dura Trac seriously impressed Thumbs Up
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mermoto



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Please all hail to the king Whistle


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tolley



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Thumbs Up BFG MUDS allday long,they might cost a bit more but they out last everything .
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Bearcat



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Oh dear, what have I reignited here? Anyway all healthy stuff and inputs. Current...07 90 Puma commercial
Porsche 930 1988 (laid up)
Previous Td5 90 & V8 90
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xatzhs



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
So as I understand it - MT is DEFINITELY better off road and possibly comparable on road to the AT. But fuel consumption-wise will the MTs be worse on road - if so, by a noticeable amount? Also if you use your MTs on road for most of their life will they wear faster than ATs on tarmac??
Post #122891 10th Feb 2012 12:21am
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bpman



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mermoto wrote:
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they are on my list for the 90 Thumbs Up with no white lettering


(already have snow discoverers and they are great)
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
xatzhs wrote:
So as I understand it - MT is DEFINITELY better off road and possibly comparable on road to the AT. But fuel consumption-wise will the MTs be worse on road - if so, by a noticeable amount? Also if you use your MTs on road for most of their life will they wear faster than ATs on tarmac??


I got 100k miles from each of my last two sets of BFG MTs, and most of that was, fairly obviously, on-road.
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Glynparry25



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xatzhs wrote:
But fuel consumption-wise will the MTs be worse on road - if so, by a noticeable amount?


Don't know if it is much worse but mine (285 BFG muds) does:

Over 80mph- 20-25mpg.
60-80mph- 28ish mpg.
Gentle driving (main roads)- 30-32mpg.

As for wear- mine have done 30,000miles and still look new.

Glyn Dog Sheep
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Mine averaged 25.8 mpg in the first 11 months of 2011, the best average on a tankful was 28.53 mpg and the worst 21.74 mpg.

In that time I put £4,592.81 of fuel* in the tank (an average of £11.78 per day) and covered 19068 miles.

I don't think that changing from MTs to ATs would make a detectable difference.

Oh, and I have 285 MTs, a Patriot rack, and usually run at around 3 tons GVW.


* Which means that £2,847.54 of that was tax.
Then there's the RFL and IPT, then VAT on everything including the RFL and IPT, all money used to pay all this tax has already been subject to the income tax. Big Cry I reckon I must own a cottage hospital by now.
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Bearcat



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Well I ordered taking everything into consideration 265 BF mud terrains. Thank you to my fellow diehards that pm-ed with their options and experience. I think it will fun with the 265s....chunkier than the grabbers and field work wont be an issue. My grabbers got to 63k before the side walls started to show wear......im suspicious they are on the jeep from day 1?
Will post a pic when done this week. Just need decent spots to fit to my a bar now.

Smile Current...07 90 Puma commercial
Porsche 930 1988 (laid up)
Previous Td5 90 & V8 90
Post #123603 13th Feb 2012 12:34pm
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ken



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265 KM2's on Boosts no spacers
Post #123605 13th Feb 2012 12:38pm
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HotelCharlie



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Greece 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White
Nice looking set-up, Ken.
Are those rubbers staying inside the wheel archs? you lifted?
To everybody opinion? On a 110 CSW.
What would be the largest dimensions to be safely fitted to factory steel?
From which tire size or diameter should you start looking for lift?
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ken



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She was new there

First mods wheels and Mud rails Thumbs Up

Looks a bit different now
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