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Anyone have Math ?
Posted this earlier on the disco forum and its fair to say their struggling, im sure a few have got their butlers working on it but no solutions yet. Over to you lot!


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X = ?

Pom

ps Lorryman100 give them 30 mins before you solve it!
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Is the answer 12ft. By using inscribed circle law and squaring both sides then using the Quadratic formula that's what I get? Whistle
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Isn't this a trick question as the dimension at Y is an unknown amount more than 3ft (Grrr, Imperial) it just so happens a 3ft circle fits in the void. We therefore only know one measurement and can't work out the vertical or horizontal.

Sine, cosine, tangent? Forgotten which is which.

B at GCSE maths 16 years go (in Worcester as it happens, Pom).
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I get 12' doing a quick scale drawing, that would be close eniough for me, well within any tolerence levels I work with Whistle
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Pom - you tell me your answer and I'll tell you if it's right Laughing Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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I get 12' too. As Lorry says, as the three sides of the triangle form three tangents with the circle, you can treat it as an inscribed circle (or incircle).

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turn the circle into a box, you know its 3 ft.

then you end up with 2 x right angled triangles and a box

easy from there on in.....think this was a starter question when i did my HNC some time ago.

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There are two possible answers mathematically, x=12 or x=3.5

If we consider y to be the length of the short side, we know that:

(x - 1.5) + (y - 1.5) = 12.5 (since chords are of equal length) => x + y = 15.5 which we will call eq1

We also know that x^2 + y^2 = 12.5^2 (Pythagoras) which we will call eq2

Squaring eq1 and subtracting eq2 gives us eq3) 2xy = 15.5^2 - 12.5^2 => 2xy = 84

considering eq1 again: x + y = 15.5 => y = 15.5 - x

Subsitute for y in eq3: 2x(15.5 - x) = 84

multiply out: 31.1x - 2x^2 = 84 therefore 2x^2 -31x +84 = 0

Solve the resulting simple quadratic equation:

x = (31 +- sqrt[961 - 672])/4 = (31 +- sqrt[289])/4 = (31 +- 17)/4

So two solutions, either x = 12 and y = 3.5 or x = 3.5 and y = 12

There may be a simpler way, but I can't see one at the moment!
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The easiest way to find x is to program the diagram into AutoCad and it works everything out for you. Whistle Thumbs Up

Or you can go down the maths route:


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my partner and i were feeding our twins last night. they both take 150ml.

my partner commented that this volume does not seem to have increased over the past few weeks even though they are growing.

i asked her to consider this volume as a sphere and compare it to the size of their abdomen's.

what size is the sphere? Confused

no internet or reference books allowed!!!
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Come on then Pom, what is the answer? Razz
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shaun.mobile wrote:
what size is the sphere? Confused

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