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Andy89



Member Since: 29 Jun 2022
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Anyones new Defender arrived on coils?
Afternoon all Smile

New poster here but been reading for a month or so.

I have just been told my new 110 hse x dynamic has arrived and will be ready for collection next week.

I have waited a year for this,but am gutted as i have been now told it has arrived with coils and not air suspension.

Air was standard when i ordered it and i was not made aware it is now an option Shocked

Does anyone have any experience of the new defender on coils?Ride and handling i assume will be a step back from my 2020 Discovery on air suspension that i currently have?

Look forward to the replies

Andy
Post #987756 3rd Apr 2023 12:22pm
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lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
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Don't worry, the Defender rides great on the coil springs, l've got one and it's superb.

Be aware that it took a few hundred miles for mine to "run in" and when brand new the ride was a bit harsh on bridleways and unmade roads.

But now at 3,000 miles it's a lot better.

Obviously you won't have the facility to adjust suspension height but unless you are planning extreme off road you won't need it.
lt's one less thing to go wrong!

You should be due a refund of around £2,000 unless they've somehow absorbed the money somewhere else.
Post #987760 3rd Apr 2023 12:52pm
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Andy89



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Thanks for the quick reply.Out of curiosity,is it a 90 or a 110 you have on coils?

The car goes offroad but nothing extreme,just through fields etc to get to the river on the beats we fish.
Access height has always been handy for reaching rod carriers.

I thought there should be a discount of some sort as i was never made aware it was now an option for the air suspension.

Andy
Post #987762 3rd Apr 2023 1:12pm
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Moo



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I’d reject it and reorder. New cars seem to be coming through quite quickly now. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
Post #987763 3rd Apr 2023 1:13pm
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pjm-84



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Agree. At that price / spec it should be air.
Post #987769 3rd Apr 2023 1:41pm
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familymad



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If I was buying it for long term and commercial or major off-road longevity… coils. For your use I’d re order.

I had a BMW iX 50 on order and they said it was due immediately and I was to be given a ‘small’ refund of £5k for the fact it is now on coils and doesn’t have rear wheels steering. Er no thanks 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #987771 3rd Apr 2023 1:58pm
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J77



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I haven’t tried a 110 on coils only air, I’ve just collected my (2nd) 90 on coils, a little rougher only noticeable because I had air on the 110 but comfortable enough.

Air suspension was made optional a while back, even before I got my 110. Dealer should’ve made you aware of the 23.5my changes. 23.5MY 90 D250 X-Dynamic SE, Pangea Green
Gone - 23MY 110 D250 XS Edition, Hakuba Silver
Gone - 21MY 90 D200 S, Tasman Blue, Fuji White roof.
Post #987780 3rd Apr 2023 3:04pm
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pjm-84



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familymad wrote:
I had a BMW iX 50 on order and they said it was due immediately and I was to be given a ‘small’ refund of £5k for the fact it is now on coils and doesn’t have rear wheels steering. Er no thanks


Good shout. The X545e rides on air and the ride is sublime. With different setting to suit driver modes and preferences.
Post #987785 3rd Apr 2023 3:55pm
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lightning



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[quote="J77"]I haven’t tried a 110 on coils only air, I’ve just collected my (2nd) 90 on coils, a little rougher only noticeable because I had air on the 110 but comfortable enough.

lf it's a brand new one, give it 500-1,000 miles and the ride will become noticeably better.
Post #987819 3rd Apr 2023 7:11pm
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lightning



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pjm-84 wrote:
Agree. At that price / spec it should be air.



But it's no longer the case, he'd need to order a different model to get the air suspension. I wouldn't necessarily say coil springs are a bad thing for a Defender primarily used on the road.
Post #987820 3rd Apr 2023 7:14pm
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Andy89



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Thanks for all the replies folks.

It is a difficult one as the rest of the spec i ordered is there,just the coil suspension that is making me question taking the vehicle as i will have it for a few years.

The dealer has told me the coils ride very well and around 50% of their defenders go out on coil suspension,i am just unsure when coming from a Discovery with air and adaptive dynamics how harsh the ride will feel.

I have arranged to drive one over the weekend to get a feel for it and then decide.

If i need to re-order then it will be around 6 months for delivery they say.

Just annoying as had i been told that it was no longer standard,i would have not hesitated in saying to the dealer to add it on as an option.

Thanks,Andy
Post #987831 3rd Apr 2023 8:25pm
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Moo



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I wonder if the lack of air will affect residual values? Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
Post #987836 3rd Apr 2023 10:01pm
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MattF



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I personally wouldn't accept it. You lose so much capabilities with coils... Wading, dynamic mode, entry / exit, the ability to choose etc.
Post #987837 3rd Apr 2023 10:13pm
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lightning



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Ask yourself

Will you actually ever use these modes? 99% of the time mine is in "comfort" mode and l rarely feel the need to adjust anything except perhaps to select "eco" when l can remember.

If you are still indecisive, the only option is to take an extended test drive in each type (coil springs and air springs) and then make your decision.
Post #987839 3rd Apr 2023 10:25pm
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Hairy Dan



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If it were me I would be rejecting it, when you are paying that much for the car and expecting air suspension the fact that it doesn't have it would be a real sore point for me and I would be very Censored off with the dealer for not letting me know. We have had a 90 on coils out with us green laning in Yorkshire and it got stuck twice purely down to the ground clearance, if it had the ability to just raise the suspension just a little bit further it wouldn't have got stuck.

At the end of the day it's your car and you have to make the decision on whether to accept it. Thumbs Up Cheers Ian
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Post #987841 3rd Apr 2023 10:49pm
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