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spudfan



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I think he might to say
"It would be useful if someone had had an accident with the axle fitted with the brackets, if they could post it here." Or something along those lines. Actually someone did at low speed but I cannot locate it at the moment. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Sadly not, just cynical.

I was once told quite seriously by a local council employee that there was no possibility that the local authority (Wimbledon) would consider installing a zebra crossing on a dangerous and difficult-to-cross road because "not enough people have been killed trying to cross".

Sadly I don't believe that JLR will take this axle fault seriously unless there is a high profile and newsworthy accident as a result. A shocking abdication of responsibility.

My wording was poor, my sentiment was cynical. No offense was intended.
Post #974312 11th Dec 2022 10:51pm
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
What Blackwolf has mentioned above with the zebra crossings anology is on the same lines to what JLR service stated to me when I visited their office with my concern and the EU alert in my hand. Not enough failures 🤬 Just shows the arrogance in JLR culture. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
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ickle



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France 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White
It seems JLR are stuck in the 60's culture where IIRC Ford wrapped some rubber round the fuel tank of the Pinto and called it the rear bumper, then when they realised the mistake, did a calculation on the cost of a redesign / recall against the cost of paying out for cremating a few peasants, sorry important customers and their loved ones....
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blackwolf



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I wonder if any of the small number of TDCi Defenders in the world running Tibus portal axle conversions have MIG-welded axles? I imagine that that would tend to break them!
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Dinnu



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Locally the wise guys dump their axles and get some proper Y61 ones. There is a good reason for that. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
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spudfan



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https://www.msn.com/en-ie/cars/news/ford-r...196cfc40a1
Have people forgotten how to use wing mirrors? Seriously though. Ford are issuing a recall because the rear view camera "could" fail. You would think that a potentially faulty axle would be a more critical issue than the rear view camera. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #980132 28th Jan 2023 12:58am
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ickle



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Reading that Ford recall its either a relatively 'free' software update or a quick job of flicking a little camera out of its housing and refitting a new one, then passing the cost back to the supplier of the camera.

The potential cost of changing the front axle and LR having to absorb that themselves plus then the argument with every owner over a courtesy 4x4, 'oh you need new brakes, new bearings, new bushes etc' would be the stuff of nightmares - no wonder they're trying to slope shoulders.....Bar stewards!
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spudfan



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Jeep showing the way.
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/cars/news/jeep-t...52d3702af3 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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DSC-off



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
Only because a large group of owners got together and took Jeep to court!

The Death Wobble issue has been a thorn in Jeep's side for years, with previous incidents leading to a class-action lawsuit in 2019...
FCA US, the US arm of Stellantis, which owns the Jeep brand, is also covering attorney fees for the plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuit. This amount is capped at $3.95 million


And from this article, Jeep are still refusing to accept liability, despite paying out millions, (sound familiar??)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/jeep-...r-AA16LtkN

The proposed agreement stipulates that the company denies any admission of liability or wrongdoing
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nicholas2012



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Looking to buy the two weld on axle brackets, Lr068818 and lr068822 for piece of mind its a 2010 defender 90 i have which isn't in the land rover recall but as seen on the forum that's not to say it couldn't happen.

Where have other bought theirs from and would any forum sponsors happen to supply them?
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Race.it



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They are bolt on not weld on. I brought mine from a large distribution website when they had a 20% off weekend. Searching for my first Defender...and started just as Covid hit, so talk about timing.

5 months after starting the search I found it, and here is the details
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nicholas2012



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Slightly easier been bolt on parts then, from what I've seen most suppliers are in about £60 including vat
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trevorg



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A search shows both available on JLR Classic website.

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.com/l...nting.html

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.com/l...nting.html

How up to date this site may be is anyone’s guess but it does indicate they are available.
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LET'S OFF-ROAD



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Dinnu wrote:
Locally the wise guys dump their axles and get some proper Y61 ones. There is a good reason for that.


I'd be fitting one of these instead, In fact I will be at some point.

https://www.maer.com.pl/front-axle-for-def...,3678.html
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