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SJM2018



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Log burner hints & tips

We're having a Hunter Herald Allure 4 log burner fitted on Monday.

I managed to do most of the enabling works (opening the chimney, adding in a steel lintel, rebricking the sides, pouring a new 'sub-hearth' and rendered the sides) which has saved me over £1k - very proud of myself!

Does anyone have any hints & tips for once it's fitted? Preferred logs - Oak, Ash, Birch? Kiln dried vs naturally seasoned? Proper lighting techniques? 2011 CSW XS 90

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Leamreject



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We have two log burners and buy a pallet of these every year.

They comply with our local smokeless fuel regulations


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ickle



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I always preferred well seasoned beech, but then I had some trees that were falling down....

Any hardwood that is well seasoned will serve you well, collect and dry fir cones for fire lighters.

You just can't beat the warm glow of a log burner, the Clearview we have in the UK house is now 24 years old and has had 1 door seal from new, all the rest is original and it was lit from October until April!.

HTH Keith

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Stacey007



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Hello


We have 2 x Aga Stoves and love them especially this time of year, I dry out my own wood from the garden (trees we have had felled and chopped up)


However as much as wood is nice to watch and the 'sound' I use coal a lot. Homefire ovals. smokeless and quite big. I can put 6 to 8 of these in on in the afternoon and it lasts all night... stoke it in the morning and add some wood it starts again.


I also keep pine cones and throw them in

If I'm lazy a firebrick (around £1.50) does for an evening.


We also added a temperature gauge on the flue behind it and a fan, unsure if the fan does improve the hot air round the room but its cool when it just starts and wizzes round Smile


On a few occasions and I put it down to the atmosphere / moisture in air I light it and the smoke come back in, its 99% fine and has a great draw.. we have the flue pipe in both chimneys. Its just an odd thing is does now and again.


Love it though, nothing like the fire on a good film, Dog on lap and a drink Smile


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These are excellent firelighters. Only need one per light... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01F8X7WAE/

I'm not too fussy when it comes to timber and pretty much burn anything provided it's dry(ish).
I swept the chimney last year and was surprised by how little muck came down.

If you have space in your opening then the little wood stove fans are good for circulating the heat.

When the fire is well established shut off any air vents in your burner or you will get through timber like nobody's business! > 110 XS Double Cab
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jst



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use a workshop gas burner to light it on kindling.

use dry logs

open it up every 24hrs to burn soot out

fan suggestion above is very valid. Cheers

James
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Silver Back



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I seem to remember a similar thread on here about preparing a burning wood. It helpfully recommended this book:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/085705...&psc=1

Definitely worth buying in my opinion and provided lots of information about which woods to use and when.

When lighting mine they key thing is getting the kindling small enough with a couple of sheets of loosely crumpled newspaper underneath. Then build up the size of kindling before lighting with a match. In a new stove you may need to burn just a small fire for a while as it will be burning off some of the contamination from the manufacturing process. I had a few nasty fumes with mine and ended up opening a window for a while.

Start with the top and bottom vents open and as it gets going I tend to close the lower vents and moderate the fire with the upper vents only.

Fantastic this time of year. Enjoy. Thumbs Up

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Stacey007 wrote:
On a few occasions and I put it down to the atmosphere / moisture in air I light it and the smoke come back in, its 99% fine and has a great draw.. we have the flue pipe in both chimneys. Its just an odd thing is does now and again.

Mine often does this when lighting the 1st burn of the season because the flue is fully cold. It's a temperature inversion that results in cold air falling down the flue because the fire has yet to generate enough heat to warm the flue air and make it rise. Thereafter it's normally OK.

Best advice for a newbie to wood stoves is to never open the stove door unless the flue damper is open - otherwise the smoke will enter the room instead of going up the flue. The close the damper afterwards to reduce the draw and keep more heat in the room.

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Muddybigdog



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We have similar with a cold flue, smoke entering the room, we tend to build a fairly hefty fire with quick igniting kindling, get the chimney hot then throw on some sizable dry logs. Open up all the vents get it roaring, then close down the vents.

I know hotels use these to start fires, get their chimneys hot, then no backdrafting of smoke in to the room.

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Post #931151 25th Nov 2021 6:29pm
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Re: Log burner hints & tips

SJM2018 wrote:
We're having a Hunter Herald Allure 4 log burner fitted on Monday.

I managed to do most of the enabling works (opening the chimney, adding in a steel lintel, rebricking the sides, pouring a new 'sub-hearth' and rendered the sides) which has saved me over £1k - very proud of myself!

Does anyone have any hints & tips for once it's fitted? Preferred logs - Oak, Ash, Birch? Kiln dried vs naturally seasoned? Proper lighting techniques?


Just completed the same job myself and also very satisfied with the result and financial saving. Log burner fitted tomorrow, so following this thread with intrest. It started with a kiss, never thought it would come to this.
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Rupert605



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We have a multi-fuel burner which we used to burn coal on as it is hotter and lasts longer than wood but it did make sweeping the chimney a messy process.
Now we use these which are easier, cleaner and create hardly any ash and no tar deposits.

https://www.penntree.co.uk/product/hotblocks/

Based in Bristol as well so local delivery for you.

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jst



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Ref the back draft on a cold light , lay fire as normal and put some loosely crumpled paper above your laid fire, light that to warm the flue and help it draw Cheers

James
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SJM2018



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Great advice - thanks all! We're really excited to have it fitted.

I'll keep an eye out for pine cones when I'm walking to the dogs tomorrow.

I've been googling the issue of smoke coming back into the room and a couple of people have suggest the "Scandinavian technique" of putting the kindling on top of the logs. Its meant to heat the flu quicker, so it starts to draw sooner.... I'll give it a go, but not convinced it will light the logs! Jst's approach makes more sense to me. 2011 CSW XS 90

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Open the window, let some cold air in and it will draw 😁

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We have a couple of Morso wood burners, we mainly burn heat logs that burn clean and efficiently.

Lighting for the first time in cold weather does sometimes get smokey, but not pushing the door too when lighting helps heat the flue and keeps smoke to a minimum. They keep us nice and toastie and a great feature in the room.



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