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Rivarama



Member Since: 28 Aug 2021
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
Help with stuck Puma oil filter casing
Hi folks,
As you know I bought a 2009 defender 110 a couple of week ago, and decided to change the oil / filters for good measure. I drained the oil, but I cannot remove the oil filter casing.

I first tried with a 27” socket and that didn’t work. I applied so much torque on it that the bolthead part of casing got damaged, rounding some of the sides.

I then tried with an oil filter wrench (the rope type) and it got me nowhere.

Is there a magical way to remove that oil filter casing? Also, there some indents on the bolthead, what
are those for?

trying to get to the LRO event in Peterborough tomorrow… being able to put oil in my engine would be nice Smile




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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Sadly there is no magical solution to a filter which has been fitted by a person lacking in brains but over-provided with brawn, as yours appears to have been. If a 6-point socket (or the wheel nut wrench) won't shift it, you may end up having to destroy it to get it off.

It is possible to unbolt the fuel filter/cooler housing from the block to tackle it on the bench, or it is possible to replace the housing with the later Defender type (or Transit type) which has a metal canister rather than the plastic thing with the renewable element.

The plastic thing is not meant to be tightened much, little more than hand-tight, as I recall. Sadly there are many people who love to overtighten things to a ridiculous degree.
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Rivarama



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
What sort of tool is required to remove it even if I destroy it?

Also, the later defender metal casing model you just mentioned; is that a straight swap? Or the cooler housing needs to be replaced as well?
Post #920893 10th Sep 2021 5:07pm
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
My 2.2, MY12 is with that type of filter and I had the exact same problem as you describe.
I was using a 6 sided socket, and was afraid I was going to shear the bottom off.
I also have the belt oil filter wrench, exactly as yours.
In the end I decided to use the 6 sided wrench and the belt simultaneously (it was a circus type of job, playing with hands and feet at the same time), but in the end I got it off without breaking it. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
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Rivarama



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
I might set up a little competition tomorrow at the LRO show…
Free round of beer to whomever can take that filter out 🤣
Post #920900 10th Sep 2021 5:18pm
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Dinnu



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Good idea... but do not go without the oil in the engine. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #920903 10th Sep 2021 5:23pm
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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
Rivarama wrote:
I might set up a little competition tomorrow at the LRO show…
Free round of beer to whomever can take that filter out 🤣


Great idea! Put a post on social media and you’ll be fighting them off with a Censored stick!!
Post #920906 10th Sep 2021 5:51pm
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jst



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Have you tried 6 point socket as above?

if still not moving I would cut it off, carefully having ready purchased new one. Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
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Rivarama



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
Yes I tried with the 6 sided socket… that didn’t work and only got me to damage the bolt… it’s now rounded and totally unremovable with anything else than a wrench.

I might try another wrench, the one with spikes biting into the oil filter casing and see if that works; otherwise I will cut it off.
Post #920947 10th Sep 2021 10:21pm
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nitram17



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Mole grips and a g clamp on housing...i come from the baler twine and hammer school of engineering! Laughing
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Ianh



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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-56137-Filt...FNPYX?th=1

Or more likely https://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-77592-Filt...&psc=1

Plus a breaker bar, with slow increased pressure.

I use the latter one on stuck metal filters with a breaker bar and it’s never failed, just carefully take up the slack and it I’ll bite tighter as pressure is applied. Never had to use on a plastic filter cover but I expect it to come loose before it is crushed.

Ps. But buy a replacement casing first.
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RichLech



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Keswick Green
I had the same problem when I first changed my filter. I bought one of these sockets designed for the job. It seems to work by putting pressure on the flats of the 27mm "bolt" rather than the six points.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361190858336?ha...SwYGFUvPwo
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Rivarama



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
Thanks for the links. I just ordered them. I also just got a replacement casing.
My fear is that if I break the current casing, I won’t be able to unscrew whatever is left in the housing thread!
Fingers crossed 🤞
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landy andy



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I wouldn’t break it I would drill hole through it (both sides) so you can pass a bar through it, if you have to. But I’m sure by degreasing it then using tools ypu will be able to remove.
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Merlin



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I had the same problem, so I bought a new casing and asked a mechanic to bash the old one off with a hammer and chisel. Just a few minutes work and all's fine now. Peter
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