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| Oldyellar Member Since: 04 Sep 2015 Location: Central Posts: 337   
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I've had a transit with the 2.2 doing the same and it was the head gasket.
Also had a 2.4 puma transit doing the same and that time it was the oil cooler. Same basic engine noth variants very common for the oil cooler to fail. I'm sure you can bypass them to test but I have no experience with this.0 |
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11th Jan 2021 9:25am |
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| dazzling1611 Member Since: 08 Jun 2020 Location: morpeth Posts: 35  
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cheers for the reply oldyellar,
Ive done the head gasket and i think ive narrowed it down to two faults now, your correct about the oil cooler and oil in the coolant expansion bottle , im going to bypass the cooler and flush the system to see if it cures the oil issues. The other fault with smoke out of the exhaust is down to the injectors not controlling correctly. Ive had my Autel 906bt diagnostic tool hooked up to it and havent got any faults but seeing high fuel pressure on idle , around 450-500 basr when it should be around 300 bar. |
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11th Jan 2021 10:43am |
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| Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 421  
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Is the ECU running on original software ? If not , i'd correct that
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11th Jan 2021 7:58pm |
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| dazzling1611 Member Since: 08 Jun 2020 Location: morpeth Posts: 35
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yes its all original
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11th Jan 2021 10:26pm |
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| Oldyellar Member Since: 04 Sep 2015 Location: Central Posts: 337
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You might need a pcm update if the injectors are not fueling correctly i had a 2.2 transit cracked piston 4 because of it over fueled.
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15th Jan 2021 10:55am |
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| Phil VM2.5 Member Since: 28 Mar 2012 Location: Limelette Posts: 196 
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Hi,
I did have oil in cooling systems. In my case it was a internal leak in the oil cooling system I did replace it with the last Ford model. Ford part 2027615 with metal oil filter The oil filter is not the same. The work after was to clean the cooling systems. I did use a special product for that, 2 times and after an other product from the ktchen I think I can say it is clean. But if I have to follow Ford instructions I should replace all ruber tube I did not because not easy I did have no symtom Hope this help you a little Phil current : defender 110 sw 2.2 puma 2012 and 230.000km today and again my Range Rover VM2.5 engine from 1992 and 528.000km today. One ten 1988 to 1992 1987 BMW GS80 One Ten from 1984 to 1987 One Ten from 1983 to 1984 Serie 3 109 from 1980 to 1983 from 1974 Jeep CJ3B and CJ6 |
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16th Jan 2021 9:24am |
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| Oldyellar Member Since: 04 Sep 2015 Location: Central Posts: 337
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Yes that is the updated oil filter from ford the metal one instead of the paper one in plastic housing.
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16th Jan 2021 5:13pm |
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| Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 421
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I've heard that you will see bubbles in the coolant if it's the head (while engin is running) Pressure in the engin is so much higher than in the coolant whereas the pressure in the oil is almost the same Perhaps you give it a try ? |
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16th Jan 2021 8:43pm |
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| dazzling1611 Member Since: 08 Jun 2020 Location: morpeth Posts: 35
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ok so update , ive now got a new oil cooler housing ready to go on and a pressure control valve for the pump.
I'm not over concerned now as i'm pretty sure its was the oil cooler, hopefully the new pressure valve will cure the excessive white smoke and the rough idling . I'll keep you guys posted |
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17th Jan 2021 9:56am |
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| Oldyellar Member Since: 04 Sep 2015 Location: Central Posts: 337
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Its a well known problem in the transit world, right from the very first puma engine vans way back in 2000
 feel old saying that. Fingers crossed it solves your problem |
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17th Jan 2021 11:24am |
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| dazzling1611 Member Since: 08 Jun 2020 Location: morpeth Posts: 35
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so an update. just to let people know and it might help others.
The issue. i had was the VCV valve in the pump had failed and stuck open, the engine was running 500 bar at idle , i replaced the valve but the engine was still running rough and loads of smoke still. I found that all 4 injectors had failed and were stuck open due to the high pressure from the pump , so i replaced all the injector and did a learn and coding for all new parts . All is well now . |
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13th Feb 2021 9:15am |
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| Phil VM2.5 Member Since: 28 Mar 2012 Location: Limelette Posts: 196
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Hi,
Thanks for the info. It is good that you finally find the solution and so not could mayby destroy your engine Philippe current : defender 110 sw 2.2 puma 2012 and 230.000km today and again my Range Rover VM2.5 engine from 1992 and 528.000km today. One ten 1988 to 1992 1987 BMW GS80 One Ten from 1984 to 1987 One Ten from 1983 to 1984 Serie 3 109 from 1980 to 1983 from 1974 Jeep CJ3B and CJ6 |
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13th Feb 2021 9:32am |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
stupid question time presser relief valve at end open fuel rail opens at 2000BAR so how as 500bar damage the injectors
fuel pressure is controlled up to 1600 bar |
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13th Feb 2021 11:01am |
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| dazzling1611 Member Since: 08 Jun 2020 Location: morpeth Posts: 35
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the 2.2 tdci doesn't have a pressure relief valve like the 2.4 tdci, its a euro 8 engine , thats how i found out the issue , as i connected my Autel 906bt diagnostic tool and found out i had huge amount of pressure just at idle and climbed when revving.
I replaced the vcv and realised it didn't have a relief valve , i then started looking at the injectors. |
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14th Feb 2021 10:46am |
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