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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5416  
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Are you saying that there are no grease nipples (point to inject grease in) on the prop shafts?
Normally there are three grease points per prop shaft. One in each universal joint, between yoke, and one on the slider. What have you got on yours? Andy. |
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29th Mar 2020 12:17am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857  
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There was a UK service bulletin to replace propshafts where the nipples were not fitted.
There's no need to replace the propshaft simply because it has no grease nipples. It is probably worth seeing if you can fit one on the splined sliding joint (the hole should be there) since wear means a new shaft. The UJs may or may not be drilled for nipples (fit them if drilled) but at least UJs are easy to replace. There's no need to replace anything if it isn't worn, so even without any nipples you can use it till it wears. |
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29th Mar 2020 8:37am |
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| CharlieDonuts Member Since: 16 Jun 2019 Location: Illiers Combray Posts: 133  
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I have one prop shaft with nipples and one without which confused the hell out of me until about 2 minutes ago
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29th Mar 2020 8:41am |
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| XanaX Member Since: 12 Oct 2018 Location: Bordeaux Posts: 13 
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I have only grease point on each UJ. Any grease pount on the slider |
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29th Mar 2020 9:29am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857
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Check in that case whether the shaft is drilled for the missing nipple (the hole may be missing, or plugged). If you have the hole, fit a nipple. If you don't, replace the shaft when the splines become worn.
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29th Mar 2020 10:07am |
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| Marks Landy Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 296 
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If anyone has access to this Service Bulletin could they post it on here?
My 2015MY 110 only has grease nipples on the UJ yokes. Sounds like a nice little Sunday lockdown project in the sun! |
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29th Mar 2020 11:44am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857
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SSM40851
Defender Front and Rear Propshaft Grease Points Models : LD - Defender Title: Defender Front and Rear Propshaft Grease Points Last Modified: 30-MAR-2009 08:27 Category: Noise/ Vibration Symptom: 703000 Vibration Concerns Content Issue: Loose or missing front / rear propshaft grease nipples for Defender 07 MYonward vehicles. Action: If any propshafts are identified where the grease nipples are missing, then the propshaft should be replaced. Any cases where the grease nipples are in place but loose should be torqued to 8Nm + 45degrees. |
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29th Mar 2020 2:53pm |
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| XanaX Member Since: 12 Oct 2018 Location: Bordeaux Posts: 13
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I have check and the shaft is not drilled. So i suppose i will wait a for more km and change it at this time. |
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29th Mar 2020 3:25pm |
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| Marks Landy Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 296
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Thanks Blackwolf!
The Service Bulletin was dated March 2009 and they still continued making new vehicles with the same problem for 6 years. |
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29th Mar 2020 5:52pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857
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And you're surprised?!
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29th Mar 2020 8:00pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19531
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Mine had exactly this. A grease nipple on a UJ on each prop missing. It was one if these the rearmost that failed.
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29th Mar 2020 9:46pm |
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| XanaX Member Since: 12 Oct 2018 Location: Bordeaux Posts: 13
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Very Funny ! |
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30th Mar 2020 10:48pm |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3184  
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Since i bought my 2012 90, i wanted to take out the rear prop shaft to align the yokes, but was always too scared that i could mess up the balancing... right now i do not feel any vibrations. My earlier knowledge on older defenders was that only the front prop shaft have a shift in angels between the yokes, due to tge front pinion not being horizontal.
While doing some job on a family defender, i noticed that his rear prop shaft also have a phase shift between the yokes. Got on Paddocks site, and in their part picture, the same phase shift is present between the 2 yokes. Any one knows why this was done, given that rear diff pinion and transfer case output seem to be parallel enough to me!!  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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23rd Apr 2020 6:57pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857
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Yes, it's because the engine and gearbox in the TDCi is nose-up, and as a result the transfer box output flange and the rear diff flange aren't coplanar. The skewed yokes compensate for the lack of parallelism. If you align the yokes you will introduce a vibration.
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23rd Apr 2020 8:07pm |
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