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| mikelike Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: new zealand Posts: 108  |
Can you imagine the cost of repairing that no time to die discodefender thing ?
Is that a bolt on guard , how about inertia switches , bet in the real world that would be a write off !!!! |
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19th Feb 2020 8:43pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857  
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Undoubtedly a write-off in normal insurance terms. I'm not even sure how you'd go about repairing a bent aluminium monocoque structure.
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19th Feb 2020 11:57pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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If you read articles like this:
https://www.lightmetalage.com/news/industr...-vehicles/ It gives an idea how much more difficult it is than for older steel vehicles. Sure there are ways around some of the expensive tooling and workshop setups, but it does surprise me the number of crashed salvage vehicles taken away on the back of tatty beavertail transits to be put back on the road. |
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20th Feb 2020 7:48am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2586  
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seen on FB, from Dave van Graan, a chap who is doing a walking tour around Namibia:
"Here are a few photos of the new Land Rover Defender. Land Rover is currently conducting a 2 month test on these vehicles. They drive much the same route that I walked plus a few other tough routes from Opuwu, van Zyls Pass, to the Skeleton coast National Park, Puros, Sesfontein and back to Opuwu. They do not spare these cars and they are really well tested. They really have a new look and nothing like the old Defender."  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge
some more photos from Namibia, including a plot of their route: Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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20th Feb 2020 8:32am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Whatever happened to "tread lightly"?
Jack Rix (@jack_rix) Tweeted: Stunt driving from @NickRogersJLR @LandRoverUKPR https://t.co/1yxt7ZkIXD https://twitter.com/jack_rix/status/1230218247452217344?s=20 "Driving impression under embargo until 25th March" https://twitter.com/OwuorMichael/status/1230132637982961664?s=20 Click image to enlarge |
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20th Feb 2020 8:49am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11240 
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Those six spoke alloys are reminiscent of the ones on the original HSE Discovery 3. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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20th Feb 2020 9:28am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2586
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Some footage from Van Zyl's Pass:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?sto...7793832190 -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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21st Feb 2020 11:12am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2586
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via @mmmotorsports
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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21st Feb 2020 11:21am |
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| Buran Member Since: 02 Feb 2020 Location: Zagreb Posts: 15 
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Not much wheel travel. They claim 12.4” at the back and 10.5” at front. But I’m not sure how they measure it. In my view it should be measured like normal position +/- 10.4” - in other words 21.0” and 24.8” total front and back.
This equals to about 3/4 of wheel diameter altogether - judging by the pictures it looks like that would not be so, but cannot be sure if the picture shown is maximum flex. That would not be great, but decent for an independent suspension... Even though an awful lot of wheel-in-the-air time compared to The Defender. But from all the videos I’ve seen, its not unstable in the air - its wider, longer and supposedly with lower center of gravity. Independent suspension and very rigid frame/chassis is not bad in itself. One of the greatest, if not the greatest off-road heavy truck ever built, Czech Tatra - uses precisely this concept + all locks. But depends on how its implemented. Another truck from the light category, Pinzgauer - also uses independent suspension and despite decent travel it often looks like its about to rollover at any moment - in the end it almost never does even on large rocks. Here, having 2 out of 3 locks and with a good TC in front it should work just fine for anything other than (more extreme) rock crawling (which is not my thing anyway). |
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21st Feb 2020 7:11pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2586
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another photo from Van Zyl's Pass
-- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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23rd Feb 2020 7:43am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857
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I hadn't noticed before how small the opening window on the second row doors is, and how large the fixed part is by comparison, really odd proportions.
I wonder what's in the door to make this necessary, it looks as though the drop glass could have been wider. |
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23rd Feb 2020 10:27am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Click image to enlarge From memory the inner door has a huge double seal that follows the wheel arch and so does limit the vertical drop available for the glass. I think the "smallness" of the opening is more down to the relative size of the door, which is huge. Click image to enlarge Last edited by Supacat on 23rd Feb 2020 10:57am. Edited 1 time in total |
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23rd Feb 2020 10:47am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750 
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I think problem isn’t what’s inside the door but the amount of wheel arch that intrudes into the door cut out stopping the door window from dropping completely Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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23rd Feb 2020 10:48am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3245 
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It doesn’t look much smaller to the D4
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23rd Feb 2020 11:32am |
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