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Supacat



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ZF Press Conference @ CES 2020:


Interesting takeaway:

"Software defines the future car"
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Supacat



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Slideywindows wrote:
My Land Rovers are blissfully unaffected by concerns like this.

Reading this thread makes me like them even more.


I wouldn't say unaffected but rather as the safety of other vehicles improves all around you, and people pay for the benefits it offers them (albeit with little choice if mandated by legislation); the likes of you and me, driving old school vehicles, will also get some of these benefits for free on the herd immunisation basis.

Imagine a world with nobody tailgating you, no speeder doing a wild overtake around you, no sleepy driver crossing the centre line towards you, no distracted driver braking too late and rear~ending you.

I'm happy to a degree.
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Life is just toooooooooo short. I want to get in, start the engine and go and when I breaks, I can fix it myself. Land Rover 1950 series 1
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Given that the some elements of the offroad Information and a few other bits of the Infotainment on a Discovery 5 I drive regularly for work have stopped working since the last update it had.......this prospect does not excite me at all.

Chris
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Listening to the Radio today, there was an article on a foreign exchange company that had their computer system hacked. It had been hijacked by the crooks, who are demanding a £9,000,000 ransom to unlock it, the crooks stating that they had been in the system for 6 months without being detected. What happens when, and it is when, someone hacks one of the major motor manufacturers computer system and locks it all up or even worse, changes data that stops the vehicles. Anyone with a new vehicle might be ok but anyone with a just out of warranty vehicle will, undoubtedly, be stuffed. Land Rover 1950 series 1
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Ecco



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...i guess resale value of such vehicles will be for sure interesting thing..just watch drama over some Tesla vehicles, stuck because of 'update'..

https://thenextweb.com/cars/2019/09/03/tes...-was-down/
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I have been trying to think why any IoT device would need two eSIMs. I can't imagine why a vehicle would need to download an OTA software update whilst it was being used in some other connected manner. I actually think that OTA updates are a terrible idea compared to (say) actually testing software properly in the first place and not having to apply constant fixes or treating customers as beta-testers, but that may be considered non-constructive 🤐

Then it occurred to me that the most common use of dual SIMs is roaming (outside the EU); where the vehicle owner could buy a cheaper data plan when driving through a foreign country. It could also be useful to gain connectivity from two different mobile operators in areas with poor coverage.

Putting aside the security concerns, IoT is a good thing. There are all sorts of interesting asset management applications, such as a 'digital twin', where the vital signs of an asset is monitored and failure can be predicted before it happens. Or geofencing to prevent an asset from being stolen. Both quite useful with Defenders, new or old.
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Supacat



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Looks like Qualcomm are in for some flack:



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