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| ginjez Member Since: 18 Sep 2011 Location: huddersfield Posts: 1771  
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 Click image to enlarge Can't imagine where they got the coffee stencil idea from  |
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19th Oct 2019 3:46pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2670  
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Click image to enlarge Alice Holt today. Had a good look around. The vehicle being shown is a hand built pre production version and shows in the quality of some materials. I would have to wait and see it again in real life to see its progression. Some things you have to take with a pinch of salt, winch (how to get to it) and steering wheel (plasticy) and the beige interior is minging (why don't show it off in a classy black) Seeing it the flesh does give a better idea of size, seating positions and rear space with both the seats up and down. To me it did not look as big as some of the pictures made it out to be but then it was on its own so I would prefer to get to drive it in town and car parks. Interestingly the LR guy said that the 90 would be on the configurator in 6 weeks time and that the 90 only had two rear seats in the non commercial version. Have to wait an see. I have added the pictures I took today. Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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22nd Oct 2019 2:11pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3709  
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I can not believe that they are launching the vehicle when its clearly not ready to be launched, it's a
 ing joke to be honest. 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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22nd Oct 2019 7:29pm |
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| ids Member Since: 06 Jun 2019 Location: Forest of Dean Posts: 35
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Nice pics. Good weather helps !
The 6 weeks for the 90 being on the configurator sounds about right. Jan 2020 by the time as 6 weeks rolls round. I'd really like to drive one however I am sure everyone feels that way. Even the journo's havn't yet apparently. I am supprised how little interest there is on the 'enthusiast' sites like this. I wonder if JLR are worried ? |
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22nd Oct 2019 7:30pm |
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| ids Member Since: 06 Jun 2019 Location: Forest of Dean Posts: 35
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Agreed. I recon they had to rush the launch as it was inevitable it was going to be leaked. I think we are seeing the last months of development in public and they are trying to keep the interest up until a proper launch. ie Veh at dealers etc. |
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22nd Oct 2019 7:32pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2670
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IDS
I think that you are correct, I was negative and first but then decided to have an open mind. Others that have seen it have knocked certain parts of the vehicle when displayed. The LR guy I was speaking to was very honest to questions and my observations. If you have seen any of the pre production vehicles at Dunsfold you can see the things 'done' to get a new car on the road. For the committed loose trim, dodgy steering wheel and beige interiors don't help to give a good first impression (especially regarding the cost) but if you look at the vehicle with a view to gain knowledge of dimensions, interior space and seating position then in that respect it is doing its job. If I had the money and was willing to sell my 90 TD5 Hardtop I would rather see and drive the end product before committing at this time. Last edited by markb110 on 23rd Oct 2019 1:09pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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22nd Oct 2019 8:58pm |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 595
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They did this with the D5 the car at my dealers vip night was pre production model and shambolic - rough/thin plastic, dash glitchy, door alignment issues, rear seat fold had failed. Was a really poor show, they were all crushed soon after. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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22nd Oct 2019 10:07pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3720 
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Having to have a fire extinguisher on hand for a parked car is a worry!!
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23rd Oct 2019 6:10am |
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| King Luis Member Since: 23 Oct 2019 Location: Toronto Posts: 42 
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I’m very interested in the new defender in a couple years. I’m surprised how hard some people are on the new defender. Seeing other pre-production cars, you cannot expect things to perfect on them. IE: some materials and panels lining up, etc.
What I’m wondering is what the blind spot is like with that c pillar? What the North American spec will look like with the ugly reflectors we have to have on our cars? |
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23rd Oct 2019 12:39pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2670
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Hi. The vehicle was connected to a battery charger that in turn was run off of a generator. Elf and safety n all that  |
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23rd Oct 2019 1:08pm |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3495  
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But they have sent us the PR and all the hype says this is “The new Defender” No chat about pre production or different plastics. The vast majority of viewers are going to see a finished article and unless they talk to the host, that’s what they come away thinking they just experienced. Bad idea as all my neighbours and friends who have seen it now don’t want one off the back of the shoddy build. 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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23rd Oct 2019 1:54pm |
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| King Luis Member Since: 23 Oct 2019 Location: Toronto Posts: 42
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well thats a shame. i really don't think LR would have many cheap plastics on a $60k+ (CDN) vehicle. it'd be really dumb of them. especially the wheel. i'm staying hopeful and still interested in getting one in a year or two.
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23rd Oct 2019 6:59pm |
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| nidge n Member Since: 04 Feb 2012 Location: Cheshire Posts: 720
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I think that the plastic is here to stay, look at the other LR products. I viewed a D5 recently which wasn't for me. I had high hopes on the new Defender but the plastic checker plate was a bridge too far
 If it wasn't called Defender then i don't think i would give this car a second glance. It just doesn't look a 60-70K car. And at the price point, a second hand Vogue offers better value.
Ultimately for me, when i put new and old together, there is only one choice. I am still a LR supporter, however they have moved too far away from their DNA. I understand that they needed to develop and adapt other models to appeal to new markets. I Just thought that the new Defender would be a more honest, practical offering. Like the Wrangler is for Jeep. I will happily stick with my 110 and my Heritage but wanted to add the new Defender. For me at least, that will sadly not be happening. Click image to enlarge |
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23rd Oct 2019 8:14pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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I quite agree about the fake checker plate, especially black stuff. I’m not a fan of the real stuff on bonnets and wing tops although I do have some on the rear quarter panels of my 90 to protect them
Click image to enlarge Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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23rd Oct 2019 10:21pm |
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