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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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Nice update video here ~ getting a closer look at the actual vehicle:
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8th Oct 2019 6:37am |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 415 
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The poster on their wall was interesting with all the different variants that are planned (seemed like fire trucks and whatnot).
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8th Oct 2019 8:42am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Yes - I noticed that as well. Very much in the style of this:
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8th Oct 2019 8:50am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Had an email from them yesterday:
"Hi , You're receiving this email because you signed up for our Newsletter in the past. Thank you so much for following us and supporting us during this wild journey. We will be announcing the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for our trucks tomorrow Thursday, October 24th, around 10:00 AM EST. " A quick Goolge suggests that this is 3pm this afternoon for us...I might schedule a tea break to co-incide with the announcement. It can't be more disappointing than the Defender reveal...can it? |
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24th Oct 2019 10:08am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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So I'm not sure if there was a sweepstake going...
Anyone have US$125k? "The suggested retail price for the B1 Sport Utility Truck will be $125,000. The suggested retail price for the B2 Pickup Truck will be $125,000. The Bollinger B1 and B2 trucks will feature hand-assembled craftsmanship, a 120 kWh battery pack, patent-pending storage options, dual motors, in-wheel portal gear hubs, 5,000-lb. payload capacity, and 15-inch ground clearance, delivering a unique all-electric experience. Our intention is to go production with all of the components and features that our team developed from the start; This level of detail is labor-intensive to produce, but it’s important that we stay true to our DNA. These trucks deliver a level of performance unlike anything on the market or coming to market. We are now accepting $1,000 refundable deposits at the following link: https://bollingermotors.com/reserve/ Targeting low-volume production, we will build both the B1 and B2 in the U.S. Production will start in 2020 with first deliveries slated for 2021. The trucks will be sold and serviced through independent dealers throughout the U.S. and globally." BUILDING THE B1 - Bollinger Motors Report post More detail, interesting to hear one of the engineers say form follows function, then they brought a designer in who appears to have "added" things, the owner sent everyone home, stripped the design back to basics & that's what they are now building: Along way off from their earlier statements: "they will be quite happy to charge no less than $30,000-$40,000 for the standard 60kWh 3-door variant." "Probably $60,000 to start. That gets you batteries with a range of 120 miles. For another $8,000 or so, you can get better batteries that extend your range to 200 miles." However, "Chief marketer and spokesman Jeff Holland. The company can reach a break-even point with only modest sales, he argued, adding that it’s “a very standard back-to-basics SUT from a materials and packaging standpoint, which also saves cost.” Pricing is to be competitive with comparable SUVs available today." https://blog.caranddriver.com/off-the-grid...ff-roader/ So two down, one to go ~ come on INEOS, don't let us down 🙏 |
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24th Oct 2019 4:35pm |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 415
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Yeah, I'm not completely surprised by the pricing. I think they have struggled to get the right investment in place to do higher volume, which means the vehicles are being hand-assembled, bit by bit, and in the US of A. That's not going to come in cheap. Unfortunately for them I think they've played the positioning game a bit wrong, leading to a lot of disappointed people who were hoping for more workmanlike pricing. I hope they find some buyers as this is one of the only EVs I have seen that appeals on any level (in addition to the beautiful Nobe 100).
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24th Oct 2019 8:07pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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This can't help thinking that their concept is good (at least it is for me):
EV startup Bollinger Motors unveils electric chassis for Class 3 trucks Click image to enlarge "Bollinger Motors, the startup that is developing the battery-electric off-road B1 four-door SUV and B2 pickup truck, has taken the wraps off the modular E-Chassis that it says will underpin both vehicles. And the news is that the Ferndale, Mich.-based startup will use it to develop future models and commercial trucks. The patent-pending platform accommodates many of the features shared by both vehicles, including 120-kWh battery pack, front and rear motors, all-wheel drive, power system controls, portal gear hub, thermal-management system and off-road features like hydro-pneumatic self-leveling suspension and independent front and rear suspension. Bollinger also says it can be easily adjusted to fit a variety of wheelbase lengths, for front- or rear-wheel-drive setups, and with or without portal gear hubs. It can also accommodate larger-capacity batteries of up to 180 kWh for higher range. “When we first built our Class 3 B1, we knew there was a commercial aspect to the platform,” CEO and founder Robert Bollinger said. “Not only cab-on-chassis, but entirely new truck bodies can fit on our E-Chassis, and help propel the world to all-electric that much faster.” The platform is covered under the same patent application Bollinger announced in January, which it said includes the entire vehicle, with “particular emphasis on the specific arrangement of the major components and subsystems.” It offered by way of example the way the motors, inverters, gearboxes and chargers “are arranged centrally and symmetrically" and result "in a desirable effect on the vehicles’ center of gravity.” When asked if the company plans to license the platform to other truck manufacturers or make its own commercial truck, Bollinger said, “Yes we could license it. And we’re planning on making it ourself to sell.” Bollinger announced last fall that the B1 SUV and B2 pickup will both start at $125,000. The base versions will be equipped with the 120 -Wh batteries, good for an estimated 200 miles of range, and will offer 614 horsepower and 668 pound-feet of torque. They also feature 10, 110-volt AC outlets, or 240-volt output as an option. Besides their off-road goodies, the interior is completely sealed off, so you can hose it out after running it in the mud or fording it in as much as 36 inches of water. Both will be hand-built in small volumes starting later this year, with deliveries expected in 2021 through independent dealers." https://www.autoblog.com/2020/03/12/bollin...-platform/ |
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13th Mar 2020 7:29am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Integral Powertrain (@integralpowert) Tweeted: After @bollingermotors unveiled it's first electric Class 3 platform last month, could this become the ultimate electric work truck? Learn more about this new commercial EV truck platform here > https://t.co/t1DFoPVrw3 #RevolutionInMotion #EVPlatform #EVTruck #Electrification https://t.co/tAGP6Qr3mv https://twitter.com/integralpowert/status/...88384?s=20 |
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8th Jun 2020 1:58pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750 
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Bottom left hand silhouette in the top picture - is that a special vehicle for transporting mutuant ducks...........
 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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8th Jun 2020 3:51pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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LOL.
Fairground transport version for these: Click image to enlarge |
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9th Jun 2020 6:58am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Still loving what you can do with this vehicle :
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5th Jul 2020 4:27pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3013 
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They are also adding a van to their line up.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-car...an-concept WARNING. This post may contain sarcasm. |
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27th Aug 2020 9:08pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Since the pricing announcement, I guess most people on this forum have lost interest in Bollinger.
Latest video, together with what feels like really slow progress towards market makes it easy to think that they are just treading water a little at the moment. |
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20th Oct 2020 7:01am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I see they were grappling with various issues that they now seen to have solved.
Looking great in white: Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge PRODUCTION INTENT DESIGN We raised the beltline or “shoulder” of the truck to allow for more packaging space for the components under the frunk, but also to raise the overall occupant head clearance. This visually impacted the exterior design in a positive way, by keeping a majority of the visual weight below that beltline (the chamfer that runs the length of the body side, just below the hood), it creates a more stable and sturdy appearance. The major change that drove our exterior design adjustments came from our breakthrough in thermal management. We were able to reduce our overall radiator size and utilize one slim cooling unit behind the bumper where it would receive better airflow. The dual, top mounted radiators were no longer required, which allowed us to widen the frunk significantly. We moved the headlights outboard, creating a similar mounting strategy as the rear lights, allowing further symmetry in our design. The B-pillar (behind the front seats) was moved forward for better ingress and egress for the rear occupant. It then made the sliding glass window cassettes less effective, so we opted to go with the time-proven technology of manual crank windows. This system is much lighter and just as robust as our sliding glass design. The windshield, side glass, and rear glass all grew taller to accommodate for more head clearance and to help with overall exterior proportions. With the taller beltline, it was necessary to vertically grow the “greenhouse” (as it’s called in automotive design) to provide better visibility, driver experience and aesthetics. Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge https://bollingermotors.com/bollinger-b1/ |
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11th Dec 2020 8:48am |
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