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Would you be willing to donate towards a trap vehicle?
1. Yes
72%
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2. No
27%
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Scoobeenut



Member Since: 04 Mar 2015
Location: West London
Posts: 280

United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
Theft Fight Back Poll

With Defenders seemingly being targeted more often than ever I am just curious why we as an enthusiast community can’t do more to fight back? Obviously Police resources are scarce and unable to prevent the thefts or even investigate and it is left up to us and the insurance companies to stand the losses whilst the gangs continue to operate with impunity.

We know the areas Defenders are being regularly taken from so how hard would it be to set up trap vehicles. Trap vehicles could be bristling with hidden technology such as trackers, cameras, microphones, security dna identification markers, ultraviolet tags and any number of other methods. Also coupled with remote surveillance by teams of volunteers and or cctv monitoring.

With crowd funding or similar donations I am sure we would have the means to raise the necessary finances. I am not suggesting we should start a vigilante group but surely we could pass on surveillance and tracking information to the authorities to track down these gangs and identify where the vehicles are going. If enough high profile gangs were trapped this way surely they would start to become wary about steeling particular vehicle models?

I wonder how many members of this forum would be willing to subscribe to something like this?

Post #790181 3rd Sep 2019 8:38am
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Caterham



Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 5583

England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

in theory yes I'd been keen. especially if members of the 'non vigilante' group get free issue Glocks Twisted Evil

probably needs a lot of planning etc but I like the idea Thumbs Up

Post #790189 3rd Sep 2019 9:12am
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 10105

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Would we also be allowed to brush the steering wheel of the honey-trap vehicle with Novichok?

Post #790196 3rd Sep 2019 9:52am
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Scoobeenut



Member Since: 04 Mar 2015
Location: West London
Posts: 280

United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black

I like your style Blackwolf 😄

Post #790203 3rd Sep 2019 10:06am
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ickle



Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
Location: South Vendee
Posts: 1223

France 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White

Integrated taser in the seat squab gentlemen’s area!

Lock on the seatbelt and a lottery drawn from the donators who gets to push the button

All recorded on YouTube

So many human rights violated, so much fun

Post #790266 3rd Sep 2019 4:13pm
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 271

An auto locking steering column that locks on full lock as soon as they start the engineand auto locking door locks that lock at over 2mph Epsom Green Tdi300 County Hard Top that has been converted into a Station Wagon
Recently departed - RRS2 HSE Dynamic in Corris Grey brilliant car but a pity about the crank problem JLR don’t acknowledge so at 3 years old it was replaced by my first non-LR car in 30 years......... a fantastic Mini Countryman PHEV, loving the economy of so far better than 148mpg as it runs 90% of the time on solar generated volts and amps

Post #790275 3rd Sep 2019 4:38pm
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Laurie



Member Since: 22 Feb 2008
Location: Sussex, England
Posts: 2850

England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey

I keep mine looking filthy and unloved.
No attempts to nick it so far. 

Post #790419 4th Sep 2019 2:23am
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5662

Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Just install a MagnaVolt alarm, this will work Whistle
Eric
 You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #790423 4th Sep 2019 4:13am
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Procta



Member Since: 04 Dec 2016
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what we need is one with a good tracker, that's not jammerable, find the location of it and then a good 20+ land rover owners, defender, disco etc. Then go to the location meaning business! Pin the arseholes to the wall, and then get the old bill, Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Post #790764 5th Sep 2019 7:46pm
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rockster57



Member Since: 15 Nov 2014
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I remember back in the 80’s West Yorks Police used to operate “Rat Trap” vehicles. One in particular was the Vauxhall Magnum which at the time was very desirable to the thieves. It had doors which would deadlock and special toughened glazing that couldn’t be smashed out of. It had a silent alarm that triggered a signal to the operations room when it was activated. But whenever it was deployed it also had to be covertly observed by police officers in the vicinity, I assume for heath and safety purposes.

The tactic was very successful but costly because of the manpower requirements and the need to keep changing the “honey trap” vehicle. Thieves talk to each other and share information. The effectiveness of a single vehicle would soon diminish.

I commend the OP for taking the initiative but I really feel that for that kind of initiative, a partnership approach from the outset with a Force’s Police Commissioner is more likely to bring the results we all would like - and even if it doesn’t get off the ground, the issue of LR theft will have had its profile raised and may instigate other relevant action from the authorities.

Just my two penneth FWIW.

Post #790773 5th Sep 2019 8:37pm
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JPE



Member Since: 19 Nov 2018
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I'd be prepared to donate towards such a worthy cause, probably a better investment than any security device.

Post #790978 6th Sep 2019 9:03pm
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Landish



Member Since: 19 Jun 2018
Location: UK
Posts: 44

United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 SW Belize Green

Sounds like a thoughtful initiative to help deal with a big problem. Yes, i’d be prepared to donate. 2005 Defender 90 TD5

Post #790984 6th Sep 2019 9:54pm
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