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grafty99



Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
Nice one, I'm still pleased with the sumo bars on mine 5 years on Thumbs Up 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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Post #754191 26th Jan 2019 11:00pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
No trouble getting the drop arm off, I take it?

Mine so far has resisted the might of an SP puller and several attempts, next time I'll be using a cheapo puller to see if it does better !
Post #754240 27th Jan 2019 9:17am
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grafty99



Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4784

United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
If in doubt, use a bigger hammer Laughing 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton
Post #754243 27th Jan 2019 9:20am
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Roy5695



Member Since: 15 Feb 2014
Location: Cornwall
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Indus Silver
blackwolf wrote:
No trouble getting the drop arm off, I take it?

Mine so far has resisted the might of an SP puller and several attempts, next time I'll be using a cheapo puller to see if it does better !


First time with the laser puller from Bearmach. I did soak the splines every day with penetrating fluid for a week.

I’ll pm you. 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html

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Roy
Post #754257 27th Jan 2019 10:42am
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Adam17



Member Since: 15 May 2018
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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Java Black
Roy5695 wrote:
Sumo bars on Cool initial thoughts are that the steering has a much better feel, no backlash from the wheels when going over potholes and man hole covers. This makes for a nice vibration free steering wheel.


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Certainly looks the part!
Let us know if it reduces the feedback from the road. I understand it reduces the vibration.. But does it take away the feeling from the road? (sorry if it makes no sense... its making no sense reading it back to myself lol... I just cant find the words for the question) Regards
Adam

Loving The Duchess
The Defender 110 TD5 XS

My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html
Post #754266 27th Jan 2019 11:11am
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Roy5695



Member Since: 15 Feb 2014
Location: Cornwall
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Indus Silver
I know what you’re saying, and yes I think it does. The steering wheel is steady and not vibrating as going along. Although this could be more the damper than the bars but I reckon the extra thickness helps to reduce the flex in steering components. 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html

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Roy
Post #754278 27th Jan 2019 11:55am
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grafty99



Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
I think it greatly enhances the feel.

As they're more solid they'll flex less so transmit more feel. It takes some getting used to but the feel is definitely more predictable and enhanced as you're not feeling it through the flex.

Also it's nice not getting after wobble over potholes etc Thumbs Up 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton
Post #754280 27th Jan 2019 12:13pm
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grafty99



Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
Thought I'd add I have the identical setup to Roy.

Sumo bars, Disco drop arm and Bilstein damper Thumbs Up 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton
Post #754281 27th Jan 2019 12:14pm
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Adam17



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Java Black
Nice, thanks guys. Regards
Adam

Loving The Duchess
The Defender 110 TD5 XS

My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html
Post #754294 27th Jan 2019 1:12pm
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Roy5695



Member Since: 15 Feb 2014
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Indus Silver
So Ive not really done much since the last update.

The Sumo bars are brilliant and the driving experience I feel is much better with a firmer (more connected) feel to the wheels. 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html

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Roy
Post #758917 15th Feb 2019 11:59pm
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sweepc



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2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
I have been missing off the forum for a little while now, I have just realised why I had to leave for a little bit Laughing Sumo bars now on the list!
Post #758941 16th Feb 2019 8:33am
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Roy5695



Member Since: 15 Feb 2014
Location: Cornwall
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Indus Silver
sorry not sorry! The Sumo bars are brilliant and I'm still loving the feel through the steering wheel!

No further upgrades as of yet, being an adult with a house and stuff sucks sometimes!

Next on the list has got to be stainless brake calliper pistons and a full revamp of wheel bearings and brake pads, discs and Flexi hoses being changed for braided stainless units!

Am seriously considering changing to the later one piece rear shafts too.

Once all that is done ill be back to rear sway bar upgrade and a super pro poly bush kit Cool 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html

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Roy
Post #763493 14th Mar 2019 7:52pm
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Which sumo kit did you go for Roy?

So many different ones on Gwyn Lewis site.
Post #763498 14th Mar 2019 8:08pm
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Grenadier



Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey
Zed, as per a reply from Gwyn to the same question to him just ten days ago:

“Hi

Most customers go for this kit here https://gwynlewis4x4.co.uk/product/defende...ess-steel/

1 x SUMO-SS-DEF-DROP-ARM-CONV-KIT-1135-2TRE £262.20 inc vat

if it is LHD i can do a LHD kit, same price.

if you just want a direct bolt on replacement then these 2 will fit straight on.

HD Steel https://gwynlewis4x4.co.uk/product/defende...-740-3tre/

Stainless Steel https://gwynlewis4x4.co.uk/product/defende...40-3tre-2/


Gwyn” Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
Post #763514 14th Mar 2019 8:56pm
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Zed



Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Cheers Grenadier. I've heard mixed reports about Sumo bars but after reading Roy and Grafty's comments may give it a try.
Post #763517 14th Mar 2019 9:05pm
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