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fraserfyoung



Member Since: 09 Feb 2019
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Epsom Green
Found a hole
Hi Guys,

Just bought my first defender, a 2009 90 County, with a full service history and 54K on it. Happy days!

Just tidying a few bits of it up and realised there's a hole in the rear sill, at the bottom of the door. Any thoughts on how I could fix this or what it would cost to have fixed?


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Looking forward to my defender journey, wanted one for ages!
Post #757989 11th Feb 2019 4:57pm
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Michaelkan



Member Since: 19 Dec 2018
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
Same on mine as well. But tiny holes. Got a tube of body filler from Halfords. Fill the hole up, sand it down and touch up paint of black. Easy DIY.
Post #758002 11th Feb 2019 5:21pm
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sweatysock



Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Indus Silver
Well maybe an easy fix if they are small holes but I sense the corrosion will continue unless more radical action is taken.

Have a look at this thread that I started for a bit more info.....hope it helps

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic65698.html

I have decided to get a more permanent fix so have been talking to my local guy to sort. Parts are minimal (£40 ish) but labour is high, maybe a day to 2 days.

I am taking the view that I want it right hence the action I am taking but get that if your current situation is only small holes then a temp fix is attractive.

Good luck Thumbs Up Sweatysock
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Post #758082 11th Feb 2019 10:06pm
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fraserfyoung



Member Since: 09 Feb 2019
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Epsom Green
Sweatysock, thanks for the link - looks pretty similar to what you have, just abit less.

Spoke to my local Landy garage who specialise in Defenders (Engine710, Edinburgh), who are going to have a look at it for me.

I think this is the part:
https://yrmit.co.uk/product/rear-body-moun...series-23/

Have you bought one?
Post #758084 11th Feb 2019 10:30pm
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sweatysock



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Indus Silver
Hi fraserfyoung, the part you show is certainly one option, I have not bought my part as will let the garage source it. Be interesting to comparing costs and nature of repair when known Sweatysock
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Post #758131 12th Feb 2019 12:07pm
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donmacn



Member Since: 06 Nov 2017
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I had this part swapped as part of a chassis swap - so not the same job as you guys are doing.

But I thought I'd just post to say that once you do get it fixed, be sure to use some sort of spacer/membrane between the steel of the chassis brackets and the aluminium of the body. You probably know that's good advice for any place in your Landy where steel and aluminium meet. In this instance, ask the repairing garage to do it while they're at the job, as access is a bit of a pain afterwards.

There are some photos on my 'tinkering/rebuild' thread (linked in the signature panel) which show just what can happen - when the aluminium just disappears into a white powder.

When I got the chassis swapped, I did ask that pvc membranes/gaskets be used at critical body mounts, and the actual result was a bit 'hit and miss' - some done, some not. The ones we're talking about here - the brackets from the crossmember to the body weren't. I'm not that bothered about these ones at the moment as I'll have to replace the tub floor at some point in the next few months. Once the floor is out it will be much easier to access behind that panel, so I'll be removing the bolts and putting something between the metals.

IMHO doing whatever you can to stop galvanic corrosion between alu and steel is one of the best things you can do to improve the longevity and look of your Landy. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #758141 12th Feb 2019 1:03pm
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hornet



Member Since: 04 Jan 2010
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Re: Found a hole
fraserfyoung wrote:
[...]
Just tidying a few bits of it up and realised there's a hole in the rear sill, at the bottom of the door. Any thoughts on how I could fix this or what it would cost to have fixed?

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Interesting, also i have a hole there. Where does it come from, is it electrochemical corrosion because of the steel screw(s)? I think the elimination is one thing, cause finding another.

Sorry, question is already answered!
Post #758145 12th Feb 2019 1:16pm
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sweatysock



Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Indus Silver
Hi fraserfyoung did you get around to sorting this? I have come up against a blocker in that my repairers don't do TIG welding for aluminium so I need to find another provider.

Does anyone know of a garage who might take on this repair in the Warwickshire area near Stratford Upon Avon? Sweatysock
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Post #761178 28th Feb 2019 1:50pm
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fraserfyoung



Member Since: 09 Feb 2019
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Epsom Green
Hi sweatysock, funny enough, I just got the quote for it this morning. £1350, inc VAT. Which I think is reasonable, given the work involved.

As you said before the part is only £50, but to re-fit it means removing the body, drilling out old part, paint the new piece, then re-assemble. Also getting part of the door, the 2 rear quarters and the cross-member painted.

From the £1350, it's £500 for the painting and 10 hours labour, plus parts and VAT.

Not sure about down your way, I'm in Edinburgh. Sorry.
Post #761195 28th Feb 2019 2:58pm
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sweatysock



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Indus Silver
Thanks fraserfyoung, good luck and thanks for the info

so my question to the wider members please - Does anyone know of a garage who might take on this repair in the Warwickshire area near Stratford Upon Avon? Sweatysock
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Post #761202 28th Feb 2019 3:31pm
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