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andrewlandy



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Austria 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Alpine White
What’s this now?


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During service spotted this. Any ideas? Something is leaking in there.

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Snowy90



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Fuji White

Looks like the swivel joint seal is leaking, search on here quite common I belive.

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andrewlandy



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What oil is it?

Thanks. Would the oil that is oozing be brake fluid, axel oil or Steering fluid?

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andrewlandy



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BTW...

The car has done 24,000 KMs.......Had it from new. No offroading. No towing.....How can this happen....Getting tired of Land Rovers.

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MK



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Likely to be CV joint fluid (thin moly grease) Puma 110" SW

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Post #756197 4th Feb 2019 2:22pm
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landy andy



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I personally can’t see anything wrong. You have a bit of oil residue from the swivel where the grease has got warm. I’m am only seeing pic on small phone screen though

Post #756226 4th Feb 2019 3:20pm
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custom90steve



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Pretty normal for a LR, I wouldn't worry.. Unless it gets worse and worse. Diu Vivo Magna Britannia!

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andrewlandy



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landy andy wrote:
I personally can’t see anything wrong. You have a bit of oil residue from the swivel where the grease has got warm. I’m am only seeing pic on small phone screen though


Maybe the picture but it dripping relatively quickly. Anyway this could be steering fluid? The pas reservoir is low. Another picture coming.

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andrewlandy



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andrewlandy



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And this is a top view of the steering thing where the pipe from the reservoir goes to.

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andrewlandy



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Could the 2 things be connected? I just don’t see how this can be at 24,000 kms.

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Retroanaconda



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They won’t be connected.

The leak on the axle is the grease from inside the swivel housing. The failure of the seals there is very common, any any mileage.

The power steering box looks like it also has a leak somewhere near it, although they usually leak from the bottom. That fluid may be coming from somewhere else above it.

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landy andy



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The swivel it’s self looks very good and no pitting, I can’t see any drips, I can just see it being damp, which is normal as the swivel is filled with grease that gets flung about, and becomes thin when it gets hot, so they often appear like yours does. The power steering fluid doesn’t go into this bit. If you are really concerned you could clean the parts with brake cleaner and see what happens. If it is dripping it could be brake fluid as the flexible to solid brake pipes join at a bracket that is fixed to the top of the swivel housing.

How is your brake fluid level? The grease that the swivel is full of is dark grey/black, power strewing fluid is bright red, and brake fluid is yellow, like larger. That may help with your investigation.

Hope that all makes sense.

Andy

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Likeomg



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i had it.. swivel leaking, was a big drama under warranty, ended up with a complete front new axle.

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andrewlandy



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Thanks

Thanks Guys.

Yeah is definitely dripping. I cleaned it all off earlier today and checked it again about an hour ago and it coming down quite a bit. The fluid looks like the greas that goes inside the swivel joint. At least that is what I could glean from a youtube vid i just watched showing rob stewart change a swivel joint. Fluid is dark with microscopic silvery bits in it. So I am 90% sure its the seal.

This looks like a biggish job, not for an amateur. Or am i wrong?

Brake fluid level is good and no change after monitoring.

Steering housing I think is a separate thing and steering fluid is low.

I'm going to the dealer tomorrow. See what they are prepared to do. I am literally 10 days out of warranty. Banging Head

Thanks again for the input. I will update when i know more.

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