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London 52



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Vin Number Help
Need some advice/help
Been looking at this 1986 Land Rover 90 Pickup today. The V5 states registration 01:01;1986 but the Vin code is stamped AA which as i understand it is 1983-1984. Is there an explanation for this?


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Don
Post #741032 17th Nov 2018 10:09pm
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leeds



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Vehicle was in storage between being built and first registered?


Brendan
Post #741036 17th Nov 2018 10:39pm
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Cheers Brendan, i thought that might be the case but just needed a second opinion.

Don
Post #741041 17th Nov 2018 10:46pm
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Don, you say V5 shows first registration as 1/1/86 which is slightly odd as that is normally a bank holiday?

DVLA says date of first registration January 1986, however look at MOT history it is 1/1/86. DVLA says year of production is 1986. That might be a model year . All leads to idea that it has been stored somewhere prior to registration.

However the data on the DVLA site is only as good as the data put in! One of our vehicles had the wrong engine number. Only one digit out so chances of a replacement engine being fitted just one digit apart is minimal so DVLA records are subject to typo errors like any other records.


MOT history starts 2014 which suggests it has been laid up for a while as MOT history normally goes back to 2005/6.

If you are thinking of buying it check the MOT history out for yourself on the DVLA site.


Brendan
Post #741046 17th Nov 2018 11:24pm
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Your right Bendan, MOT history starts at 2014. The vehicle is currently registered for road tax as limited use. apparently used as a farm/Agricultural on reduced mileage use. The chap selling is a dealer and only knows limited history on the vehicle,

Don
Post #741048 18th Nov 2018 12:02am
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Decided not to go with the 90 Pickup in the end, with the missing MOT history i just did not feel comfortable going ahead with the purchase.

Don
Post #741052 18th Nov 2018 7:21am
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Wise. There will be others.
Post #741053 18th Nov 2018 7:37am
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Old thread I know, but it is entirely feasible that the vehicle was bought new & never registered but used off road, i.e. On a farm or more likey a road construction site. I bought a 1989 manufactured 90 in 1994 & it had never been registered for this reason. I had to get it MOT'd & insured on chassis number then drive it to a DVLA site to be inspected & issued with a 1989 correct registration number. From memory the V5 showed the year it was built & the year it was first registered for the road & did not have the statement 'declared new at first registration'.
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http://www.expeditiongear.co.za/cu5/Decodi...umber.aspx

Land Rover 90 and 110 vehicles with 'A' and 'B' codes are not easily distinguishable, but no issues currently surround these vehicles that require the model year to be known for the purposes of ordering items.
Just as a by the by, my truck was registered 1:12:1984 and has the letter B as the year indicator. However,A, was used by series vehicles from 1979 -1984 and by Defender type vehicles from 83-84 with B being used from 84 - 86 though there have been other cases of A being used until 87
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leeds wrote:
However the data on the DVLA site is only as good as the data put in! One of our vehicles had the wrong engine number. Only one digit out so chances of a replacement engine being fitted just one digit apart is minimal so DVLA records are subject to typo errors like any other records.

I can vouch for that!

In 1985 I bought a brand new Kawasaki GPz900 motorbike and the documents arrived from the DVLA and they declared it was a "steam driven vehicle"!!!! Cheers Don.
Post #752792 21st Jan 2019 3:33pm
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