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) so a call to all the experts and Def 2 CSI brigade lol.
scrap I hear you say 
| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1339   
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Could the replacement crank sensor you fitted have worked loose or have bad contacts? Not sure if that would cause the ecu to lock out the starter, but I'm guessing the engine would stop if the crank sensor stopped working.
Probably not the issue, but might be worth checking as you had only just swapped it out to get it started. |
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5th Nov 2018 7:16pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5281
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I recon its the crank sensor failing, My dad had a VM powered Jeep and that did the same tricks. Cutting out when on the move. the only gripe is if you were to remove one off a donor jeep liberty, they are a
 to get at! plus a small fortune to buy too. My dad ended up replacing both the cam and crank sensors. After that he decided to get shot as it was starting to be a for support. Not sure if that's changed now. On the plus side at least you can read it! My dads Jeep hardly anyone could read the ECU! Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
In the words of my Good Friend, Gary Forrest 1980 -2025 " we will work something out" |
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5th Nov 2018 7:45pm |
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| Defender SVX Member Since: 29 Jan 2009 Location: Co Durham Posts: 730 
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Thanks for reply’s keep them coming, don’t think it’s entirely the crank sensor as before even when disconnected the engine would crank over and throw an engine management lamp now it won’t even turn and no engine management lamp even on self check. I’ve tried “shorting” the starter and it turns fine but won’t start. Formerly mao99999
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5th Nov 2018 8:05pm |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1339
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Would it have had a key with chip based immobiliser at that age? Just wondering if the immobiliser has kicked in and that's what's shutting everything down.
My mate's Honda Civic petrol used to do this occasionally. Engine warning light lit on the dash, starter wouldn't crank and electric fuel pump wouldn't run. Providing a direct feed to the fuel pump and shorting the starter made no difference as the ecu had also stopped sending a signal to the distributor. No idea how you would check or reset this though on the VM , other than possibly a battery disconnect, and touching the live battery lead to earth. This trick seemed to work for the Civic. Do you have another ignition key for it? |
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5th Nov 2018 8:16pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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The older LDV Convoys had immobilising keys so based on age it could well do.
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7th Nov 2018 9:31pm |
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| Defender SVX Member Since: 29 Jan 2009 Location: Co Durham Posts: 730
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I seem to have sorted the no starter issues, a main feed wire to the starter had snapped inside the heat shrink protection near the battery terminals
Still a PITA to start though always needs easy start, yet once fired sounds great and once warm will start all day  Rescan and always crank position sensor until start up then clear the code and nothing until another failed cold start 
Traced the cps wires up to the ecu and exact same signal as the sensor itself, time to try the other ECU again and see if that makes a difference? Formerly mao99999 16 Focus RS Nitrous Blue. 11 FFRR TDV8 Vouge SE Black Black. 08 DEFENDER SVX SOFT TOP (SUPERB) 08 DEFENDER 110 DCPU Stornoway grey (Overland Exploration Unit) 05 Fiesta ST 150 Van 04 Jaguar XKR 4.2 Supercharged V8 02 DEFENDER 90 TD5 (next years soft top project) 95 DEFENDER 110 CSW 300 TDi Phoenix black 95 DEFENDER 90 HT Monti Carlo blue COUNTY 300 TDi 67 109" SERIES 2a TUNED 200 TDI 64 DAVID BROWN 990 rat look 55 86" SERIES 1 |
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8th Nov 2018 11:42am |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4801 
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Are the glow plugs ok?
Also our Iveco daily was a pain to start. Turned out the starter was on its way out and drawing too much current causing all manner of starting problems. New starter motor sorted it  2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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