BLACK LAB wrote:

mick wrote:

BLACK LAB wrote:

Slideywindows wrote:

On a controversial note, I noticed on the TV coverage that all the people dragging heavy hoses and fighting the fires in the sweltering heat were firemen.

Not firefighters.

No doubt the lady firefighters were doing the same on another part of the moor.....


Good luck to those at the "front".

I served in Strathclyde Fire Brigade for 8 years . ( Grandfather 36 years , Father 30 years ) The Fire Brigades up and down the country are forced to take on more women nowadays . Positive discrimination I think its called . Put very simply - Women cannot do the job as well as a man can .Men do have to work that bit harder to cover for the women in their crews . Large grass fires are usually a prime example that will flag up how weak a woman can get after only a short while of beating grass or heather out . Their upper body strength cannot compare to even a below average man's . If a man says anything in even the slightest hint towards a woman not pulling her weight on a job like a large grass fire then you better believe that he will face the full wrath of his employers as they strive to wrap the women in a protective bubble . Every man in the Brigades now whether they will admit it or not are scared to say anything infront of a woman incase it is taken the wrong way and they get reported . While women make brilliant nurses , fine paramedics and in some instances good police women the Fire Brigade is a better service to the public's safety if it is performed by a man . No question about it . Nowadays the quality is diluted with too many women .

As for that moorland fire down in England ...........We get them every year up in Scotland a great bigger than that and just get on with it . It is the same every time something happens in England like when they get 1cm of snow in London its headline news .

Good luck with putting it out though when its over the officer in charge of the incident should be facing serious questions in why he did not call in helicopter assistance alot earlier

I agree the Navy did a experiment a few years back when women wanted to join and they proved a fit 9 stone woman wasn’t as strong as the equivalent weight man
On the fire note it’s rumered to have been arson as it belongs to a shoot.

I agree with fairness and equality but trying to put everyone inside the same box or category is wrong . Women and men are different - everyone knows that but quite often nowadays men are acting more like women and women are trying to act more like men . Some jobs out there are better served with a man - pure and simple just the same as women are far better than some jobs then men . Trying to make women into firemen , navymen and soldiers etc is a bit like trying to make a Collie into champion gun dog or a labrador into a prize sheep dog - Just cos its a dog ? Its just doesnt work ......I heard that stupid woman who is meant to be incharge of London Fire Brigade calling for the kids TV show Fireman Sam to be renamed Fire Fighter Sam .......Whit a load of crap she talks and I bet that she has never hardly been in a proper house fire in BA either .

Zed wrote:

The main issue I see is that traditionally some jobs were done by big lumps. Now women and smaller framed blokes are proving just as useful some of the more insecure men are suffering from damaged machismo and bruised egos.


I would bet my last English pound that woman has successfully dealt with much bigger stresses in the fire brigade than yourself. I don't mean that to be disrespectful to you as 8 years keeping everyone safe is commendable and I have the utmost respect for our emergency services but she has served decades and risen to the very top. She is ultimately responsible for the entire London Fire Brigade and the safety of our capital.


Regarding the rugby team metaphor, that clearly went way over your head so there is no point responding.

The Mayor was voted in by the public. Not a forced politically correct appointment.

As for Pride "nonsense" I would have thought that as a burly ex fireman that would be right up your alley. ..

Nothing at all to do with any bruised machismo egos . The simple fact remains that in the particular job such as the fire brigade those big lumps you talk about are far better at it than even the brightest sharpest intelligent women out there- the job is not particularly hard to do and much of the time boils down to brute strength and physical endurance - paid from the neck down if you wish . Smaller framed blokes often manage the job for sure as they can be incredibly strong physically but women quite simply are not - no matter how much you may want them to be just to satisfy your need to balance fairness and equality in your search for a hermaphrodite world .

She on the other hand has risen to the very top due to blatant discrimination against her male counterparts - she will have had a relatively easy rise to stardom through various promotions where she will no doubt have came up against better qualified and more capable males but she will have beat them not on merit but purely because she has a vagina.

She is an appointed figure head merely propped up by men who actually know what they are doing - she is a puppet to appease the Diane Abbots and Jeremy Corbyn's out there .

As for your Mayor ? No wonder he was voted in ? London is overrun now and you cannot ever get it back to the way most of you on here would love it to be no matter how much you pretend to be accommodating to others .

In answer to the chap who mentioned Russia - I'm just back from my holidays there again - salmon fishing- very nice again . England sure does have a problem with making out Russia as the bad guy all the time - maybe you need to look at yourselves first ?

On another note I find it rather amusing that the same English football fans who so often over the years routinely call for people of other countries and other origins to " Go Home " will be now cheering on a team that is full of men who originate from other countries .  2006 DEFENDER 90 TD5 CSW XS
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