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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223  
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He is the same age as me, so not so much of the bloody old
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5th Apr 2018 7:26pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5118  
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You are only as young as you feel. Next month I am 65 that age used to be referred to as an old age pensioner but in no way do I feel like an old man just a matured individual who still makes mistakes
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5th Apr 2018 7:49pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5889  
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The family of the burgler says 'he didn't deserve it, he was a loving family man and that it was all just a mistake that got out of hand'. No shame whatsoever, but then they are a family of career criminals who prayed on the elderly. If you feel the need to make a living by robbing, and to do so, feel the need to target the vulnerable, and to be sure of success feel the need to do it in pairs and armed, 'you takes ye chances'. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Or screwdriver. People who act like this, whether through coning or burgling retired, hardworking members of our society, are the lowest of the low. I have more sympathy for drug addicts who burgle as they have reached a pit where their actions are often beyond their control. But a guy who finds this an easier way to make a living than some honest toil, I have no time for them. If he had done the same to my parents and they had been attacked and assaulted (emotionally as well as physically) and my father (same age as the gentleman in question) had fought back to save himself and my mother, good on him, he'd have every right and should feel no remorse. Obviously the caveat is that this all falls within the realms of the law and 'appropriate force' and my olf man didn't start chopping his arms off with a chainsaw. But in a struggle...fair dinkum
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
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6th Apr 2018 11:30am |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248  
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Just been announced that no further action is to be taken against the 78 year old.
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6th Apr 2018 6:27pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127 
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Just watched it on the news,
Best thing I’ve heard for a long time!
Buy that man a pint  80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
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6th Apr 2018 6:31pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4805 
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Brilliant news
now can we give him a medal or knighthood for his fine work? 2015 HT XS 90
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6th Apr 2018 6:32pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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That is very good news Bob.
The police had to do their duty and investigate what had occurred. If due process was to arrest the house owner, then bail him, and state within about a week no charges they must be satisfied that the elderly gentleman had acted within the law. Hopefully they will be able to find the second scumbag criminal and bring him to court and hopefully a long jail sentence if found guilty. Brendan |
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6th Apr 2018 6:34pm |
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| Tdi4 Member Since: 24 Oct 2014 Location: Houten Posts: 513  
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I must say the police has done a swift job a defender from 1984 pretending to be a puma with a touch of Range Rover |
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6th Apr 2018 7:23pm |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223
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Hopefully, this will allow the rest of us to take similar action if our homes are broken in to.
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6th Apr 2018 9:15pm |
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| Lateralus Member Since: 05 Jan 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 185 
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It would seem like an easy target if the man didn't have the right to protect himself with a firearm. A firearm puts everyone on a level playing field in a way. Whether your a single 100 pound mother, a gay couple or a 70 something man or woman with 5 different health problems. If I were in the business of home burglary or assault in a place that didn't allow for self defense with a firearm, I would exploit that by targeting the weak and elderly.
Personal freedom does have a price, but so does over regulation. |
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7th Apr 2018 1:50pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5889
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Mmm, Lateralus, you're certainly a fan of type-casting. I know a 100lb mother or two and certainly quite a number of gay couples who could (to use an American term) kick your butt, and indeed mine, armed or not. In fact there used to be a pub in London's Earl's Court district, The Coleherne (now a gastropub) which was frequented by the bears and muscle-Mary's (their phraseology, not mine, so legit
 ), of London's leather scene and who were often so violent that the police wouldn't enter the pub during a brawl and instead let them sort it out themselves. Proper mucscles, proper violence, no weapons needed.... Monsieur Le Grenadier
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7th Apr 2018 2:20pm |
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| Lateralus Member Since: 05 Jan 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 185
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Yes of course there are tough people of all shapes and sizes. I guess being unarmed is good incentive for the elderly to get in shape and learn martial arts or boxing so they can fight 20-something criminals.
Let's be real though, if youre a criminal and know some old lady using a walker, living alone and has nice things, you are going to pick her place to loot or assault. There's a good chance she isnt a kickboxer. If she has access to a firearm, her odds just went way up. |
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7th Apr 2018 2:34pm |
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| JellyBean Member Since: 02 Mar 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 142
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A large, loud, hungry dog on the premises usually deters said criminals! Two even better...
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7th Apr 2018 2:37pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5889
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Some further thoughts and remember I like guns being ex-Military. I just don't think everyone should own (or is capable/well-trained/intelligent enough to own) a firearm. "Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually. In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens), and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens)". In 2010, there were an estimated 5,419,000 crashes, 30,296 of with fatalities, killing 32,999, and injuring 2,239,000. About 2,000 children under 16 die every year in traffic collisions. Records indicate that there have been a total of 3,613,732 motor vehicle fatalities in the United States from 1899 to 2013. That's right, more deaths by firearms than RTAs. 
Every time a gun in or around the home was used in self-defense, or in a legally justified shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides. That's one self-defense shooting for 22 accidental, suicidal or criminal shootings -- hardly support for the notion that having a gun handy makes people safer. Other studies show that women and children are disproportionately the victims of such gunshots, and that when children commit suicide, guns in their home or at their friends or relatives' homes are used. In 2014, there were an estimated 1,729,806 burglaries. Gun deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides, 21,175 suicides, 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent". Of the 2,596,993 total deaths in the US in 2013, 1.3% were related to firearms. Surprisingly, most burglaries occur between 10 AM and 3PM. Many homes are empty during this time while people are at work. Burglars know this and use it to their advantage. 2.5 million victims use a gun to scare their offender. That's almost 5 law-abiding citizens a minute. However, victims only shoot their offender 8% of the time. Gun related killings as a % of all homicides, US 64%, UK4.5% Not the most comforting stats. Does all the other mayhem derived from gun ownership (and I haven't dipped into the media's favourite: mass shootings) warrant gun ownership when deaths during robbery/burglary only accounts for 0.04 of all attempted robberies. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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7th Apr 2018 2:45pm |
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