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TOP5N



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Side exit exhaust.
Hi all... I have had a side exit stainless steel exhaust fitted to my td5 with cat removal... Can anyone tell me if it would be recommended to have a flexi section in it anywhere ? It has a small silencer just after where the cat would have been, but have noticed that there is some movement on the exhaust coming out of the side... It seems to sit different when it is hot, to how it does when it is cold.... I'm guessing the metal is expanding slightly when hot...

Chris
Post #542434 22nd Jun 2016 3:46pm
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Browny90



Member Since: 20 Jul 2015
Location: Derbyshire
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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Stornoway Grey
Do you mean there is no flexi fitted at all?

It could do with one really, there is obviously movement between the engine and the chassis, so you'll be constantly stressing the exhaust, or fouling on chassis or bodywork..

The rubber mounts will absorb some movement, but not all relative movement between engine and chassis..

The flexi should sit between coming away from the engine before the first exhaust chassis mount.

There shouldn't be that much expansion on the exhaust when it gets hot.. certainly not enough to notice where it exits the body.. are you sure its not broken? My 1986 90 is currently on a full rebuild, with new chassis, Paint etc.. Very much a hybrid, TD5 Chassis, tub & bulkhead with a 200TDI and LT77 GB Painted in Stornoway Grey Smile 2 years off the road, but getting close to completion now
Post #542447 22nd Jun 2016 4:19pm
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Wild Card 90



Member Since: 03 Dec 2014
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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
I have a side exit exhaust on my TD4 2.2. Fitted it a year or so back. No flexi section involved. Just a pipe replacing the middle silencer, and a new fabricated stainless pipe replacing the rear silencer and tailpipe. It has taken a few goes to get it right but now it works as it should.

As you can see the distance to the body is tight (10mm) and I have had to file back the body and move the trim ring rearward twice. The 2.2 exhaust (standard tune, with cat and DPF) gets quite a bit hotter than the TD5, and I would see about 8mm of expansion - the tip moved rearwards - when getting out of the vehicle driven fast on the motorway.
When cold, the tailpipe has about 6mm gap to the front of the ring, and 14mm to the rear. Once hot, it is the other way round.

The final trick to reduce the amount of movement in the system was to pull two fat (6mm) tiewraps around the stock rubber mounting bung to stiffen it up a little. You can see the ribbing on it where the tiewrap sits comfortably.
Recently we towed a 2.5 ton trailer over the the UK and back, running at 110 -120 Kmh on the Autoroute. The exhaust was getting nice and hot, particularly in DPF regeneration phases. No rattles or noises from the tailpipe. Its one of my favourite bespoke modifications on our 2.2.

Hope this helps.


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 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW,
2012 2.2 90 SW,
2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma
Heavy Track Raids, 255 MTīs,
Recaro CSīs, anorak, wellingtons


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Post #542483 22nd Jun 2016 6:13pm
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TOP5N



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That looks like a real nice system... Mine comes out just behind the passenger door, but sticks out about an inch, and is on a bit of an angle...
Post #542493 22nd Jun 2016 6:56pm
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Kent_keith



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Zambezi Silver
Those are nice rear work lights, could you tell me what make they are please 2005 TD5 90 CSW XS
Post #542938 24th Jun 2016 9:27am
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Wild Card 90



Member Since: 03 Dec 2014
Location: Gerlingen
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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
The work light are Hella Mega Beams. Available in spot, flood and LED versions. Not cheap, but fantastic quality. 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW,
2012 2.2 90 SW,
2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma
Heavy Track Raids, 255 MTīs,
Recaro CSīs, anorak, wellingtons
Post #542954 24th Jun 2016 10:48am
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