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| mowcop Member Since: 03 Jul 2009 Location: Staffs Posts: 108   
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Just being lazy, can we use supermarket style Biodiesel in the Tdci?
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13th Sep 2009 6:41pm |
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| vogue se Member Since: 24 Jan 2008 Location: Bocholt Posts: 111  
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No, according to the manual, you can't use full biodiesel and also no diesel containing a % of biodiesel.
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14th Sep 2009 7:04am |
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| alantd Member Since: 14 Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1513 
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By law you're OK up to 5%. Jury is out on whether it makes any difference after that. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
+ New Defender 110 First Edition |
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14th Sep 2009 10:11am |
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| discocuzzy Member Since: 16 Jul 2008 Location: surrey Posts: 1200 
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You will stink of skate wings and seveloys though! You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things
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16th Sep 2009 5:48pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6266 
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do a search on here and you'll find mention of biodiesel else where.
I know that they'll run on much higher percentages than 5% with no percieval difference other than you'll be putting your warranty in jeopardy. |
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7th Oct 2009 8:52am |
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| _Stingrey_ Member Since: 29 Jul 2015 Location: Wirral Merseyside Posts: 14 
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All diesel engines will run problem free on quality B100 fuel.
The reason why manufacturers won't say so is because too many home brewers can't make good enough fuel and hence will not cover it with their warrantee. Unconverted WVO, water, soap and glycerol content are what cause problems within the fuel systems of the modern common rail engines. I have manufactured quality biodiesel for the past 6 years and have every batch checked for EN14214 compliance. As a result of these stringent QA tests I have used my Biodiesel in many common rail diesels for a number of years and covered 10's of 1000's of miles. All engines run smoother and deliver improved mpg. From as little as 10p/litre the time invested in learning how to make EN14214 quality fuel is richly repaid with the added benefit of being greener for the environment. I haven't paid a penny at the forecourt for 6years and I don't intent to ever have to do so again. |
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19th Feb 2016 12:41pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6266
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very interesting.
do you mind sharing with us your process methods? out of interest do you run any Euro5 engines on it and do you find any issues? |
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19th Feb 2016 12:47pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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This from my Puma 2.4 handbook
FUEL QUALITY Note: Land Rover vehicles are capable of running with up to a 5% blend of bio-diesel, in accordance with European Standard EN590. Now, not an issue here, as all diesel in Switzerland remains B0(B zero) to date. Biodiesel has never been approved for road use here. With very low crude oil prices today, it is more expensive to produce commercial biodiesel for blending (mainly from rapeseed) than to produce mineral diesel. They still blend the roughly 5-7% due to the mandates. The EU taxpayer, and that still includes the UK  , pays the bill. 
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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19th Feb 2016 1:23pm |
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| _Stingrey_ Member Since: 29 Jul 2015 Location: Wirral Merseyside Posts: 14
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The key to making good Biodiesel is time and understanding of your feedstock. I use a no titration 2 stage process and always make sure that I achieve 100% clear 10/90 test. Always water wash until all soaps and glycerol have been removed. (Soap tests done every 2nd wash until all soaps are non detectable). Dry to less than 225ppm and filter to 5um and then settle for 7days before hot centrifuging and ultimately cold filtering to 1um prior to use. |
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19th Feb 2016 5:09pm |
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