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Nur Links



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Why would you only want to fit a rear ARB? And what do you mean by 'standard'? Standard ARB or standard 110?
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keith



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This is what I have fitted . Along with gas shocks . Almost eliminates body roll .

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Post #296607 7th Jan 2014 6:40pm
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epictrail



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 110 Td5 HT Chawton White
Is that a 25.4m or 28mm roll bar??
Post #296628 7th Jan 2014 7:17pm
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df1



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What make are these ?
Post #296631 7th Jan 2014 7:26pm
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keith



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28mm from xtreme 4x4 Thumbs Up
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epictrail



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Very Orange Rolling with laughter
Post #296634 7th Jan 2014 7:30pm
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keith



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ORANGE you say ? I'v been done Banging Head .... I ordered BLUE !
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Post #296641 7th Jan 2014 7:55pm
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epictrail



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 110 Td5 HT Chawton White
Think the washer is in the wrong place. Isn't it meant to be between the roll bar and the bush.



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timbar



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Nur Links wrote:
Why would you only want to fit a rear ARB? And what do you mean by 'standard'? Standard ARB or standard 110?


That's a very good question, and one I need some advice on. As I understand it changing the front ARB has a marked effect on over/understeer, and I'm happy with what we have at the moment. At least, I'm not concerned about changing it. Also as I understand it -- not sure if this is just on 110s -- much of the body roll can be absorbed by just uprating the rear ARB. Buying just the one might also be cheaper.

Also interesting that the XEng XDeflex is only suitable for the rear (I think) -- would be good to know why.

By standard I mean I don't quite know what I mean: I'm assuming they're the factory fitted ARB for a 2009 110. 2009 110 XS Station Wagon
Post #296705 7th Jan 2014 10:14pm
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timbar



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keith wrote:
This is what I have fitted . Along with gas shocks . Almost eliminates body roll .


Very nice. You know you've got them fitted as well Smile 2009 110 XS Station Wagon
Post #296708 7th Jan 2014 10:17pm
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bm52



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana
I took advice from 2 sponsors on here and I was advised to leave the front ARB as standard and for my 90 only go to the 25mm rear ARB to ensure the over/under steer is not compromised.

It has made a massive difference, it will flow nicely through corners, feels tight at the rear if you do get a tad adventurous and I have never had a problem with articulation. BM52
Post #296806 8th Jan 2014 10:33am
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timbar



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Great, thanks bm52. I'll take a look at the sponsors and see who might be able to help Thumbs Up 2009 110 XS Station Wagon
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Nur Links



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[quote="timbar"] That's a very good question, and one I need some advice on. As I understand it changing the front ARB has a marked effect on over/understeer, and I'm happy with what we have at the moment. At least, I'm not concerned about changing it. Also as I understand it -- not sure if this is just on 110s -- much of the body roll can be absorbed by just uprating the rear ARB. Buying just the one might also be cheaper.

Also interesting that the XEng XDeflex is only suitable for the rear (I think) -- would be good to know why.

By standard I mean I don't quite know what I mean: I'm assuming they're the factory fitted ARB for a 2009 110.[/quote]

Both the front as well as the rear ARB have an effect on how your car handles. An ARB basically is a spring and the side effects are similar (only working on the lateral movement, that's why it's used to reduce body roll) --> stiffer at the front = more understeer, stiffer at the rear = more oversteer. If you have no ARB's at all (like my car had) I would fit them at both ends. If you have the standard ARB's you might finetune handling by fitting a stiffer ARB on the rear. Also make sure that the bushes and droplinks are in good nick and/or fit stiffer PU ones.
Post #297069 8th Jan 2014 10:56pm
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timbar



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Cheers Nur Lunks Thumbs Up 2009 110 XS Station Wagon
Post #297081 8th Jan 2014 11:20pm
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epictrail



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 110 Td5 HT Chawton White
Last week I fitted a 30mm front roll bar and 25.4mm rear. Massive improvement over the standard ones my 110 came with.
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