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| ruben Member Since: 04 Feb 2021 Location: ASTURIAS Posts: 377  
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I disagree with that, you should not be so categorical and respect the tastes of others in my opinion, I tell you this because I, for example, in its day I could choose between the two dashboards, I did not go on request I bought my Defender directly at the dealership choosing between several options available in 90 and 110, and I was able to decide to have the 100% Digital and the mixed “so ugly” as you call it and I kept this option, and I do not regret it, and today I like it much more than a simple digital screen that I already had the possibility to use many times too, even so this seems to me an aesthetic success, I have the same information and I think it gives it a slightly more exclusive touch with a hint of classic car of a lifetime, not everything is going to be technological, I also like analog things. That's why I think you should respect the tastes of others and not be so categorical... since I don't think they would improvise that solution on the fly due to Covid... I think it was an option and in the end the cheap option to manufacture prevailed, that is, the digital panel... which is much cheaper to manufacture... IMHO Defender 110 SE I6 D250 23MY ExDiscovery 3 TDV6 SE |
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24th Sep 2025 11:36am |
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| 4B4B Member Since: 30 Apr 2021 Location: Midlands Posts: 107 
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You are indeed correct. I should have considered the opinion of others. So I have removed the comment. Analogue dials with a third cut out to fit a smaller screen aren’t to my taste, but I respect for other people this may not be an issue. Apologies for any offence caused. Disco 4 Owner - 110 on order
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24th Sep 2025 1:33pm |
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| ruben Member Since: 04 Feb 2021 Location: ASTURIAS Posts: 377
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Thank you for your kindness, but your comment doesn't rise to the level of being offensive. Regards.👍🏼👍🏼 Defender 110 SE I6 D250 23MY
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24th Sep 2025 1:37pm |
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| ruben Member Since: 04 Feb 2021 Location: ASTURIAS Posts: 377
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👌 Defender 110 SE I6 D250 23MY
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24th Sep 2025 1:37pm |
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| H1Tad Member Since: 20 Jul 2024 Location: Maine Posts: 170 
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Its interesting juxtaposing the international situation compared to what I see at my local dealer.... where Defenders are stacking up like cordwood now. There are 8 new ones on the lot according to their website and half of those are unsold 2024's. Combined with the 8!!! used Defenders on the lot - a wide variety of (US spec of course) I4's, I6's, V8's, colors and options are available. If I'm in the market for a Defender, at least in my neck of the woods - there's no need for me to place an order - I can walk into the dealership and in 15 minutes (more than that and I walk out the door), walk out with a Defender of my choice. 2022 Defender 110 SE P400 Tasman Blue Expedition and Cold weather package 2003 Hummer H1 P400 Firehouse Red 2008 Toyota FJ Cruiser |
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24th Sep 2025 2:25pm |
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| Trevorb1 Member Since: 16 Apr 2023 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 25 
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There's a number of new ones in UK on both LR's own site and autotrader, some 25.5my some 26my. If I could get my deposit back I could have a new one not quite my spec within 5 days, but as mine was only 2 weeks from build complete I would loose deposit if I cancelled now.
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24th Sep 2025 2:40pm |
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| 4B4B Member Since: 30 Apr 2021 Location: Midlands Posts: 107
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Another story on this. Not necessarily any more news, but it adds to the picture.
https://www.ft.com/content/c301e78a-38e7-4818-b367-14af85130c61 Regarding getting deposits back, I would have thought halting production of the vehicle would be fair reason to cancel. There’s already a vulture website popped up suggesting there could be legal remedy for the customers affected by the data breach. (Not more cold calls, I’ve had enough of the diesel ones!) Whenever I’ve looked at the stock vehicles they always seemed to have a premium attached, and didn’t have the features I wanted. I’ll probably just sit it out, if the vehicle eventually gets delivered with the spec I wanted, great. If not, I’ll consider what is missing and whether it is worth waiting a further 6-12 months to try ordering again. Interesting to hear about the stock availability in the states. Disco 4 Owner - 110 on order |
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24th Sep 2025 7:09pm |
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| Bigmeg1979 Member Since: 11 Apr 2021 Location: West lothian Posts: 43 
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This is very true. I was able to purchase a standard S spec 110 D250 in black last week. The issue is that even although the car is in stock, they can’t register it. There is apparently a manual back up system but it’s pot luck if your car gets picked to register. I got the good news a few hours ago that I can pick my Defender up on Monday at 10am. I can’t wait. I would have loved a higher spec but in all honesty the S spec was all I could afford. To me it’s a stunner and I can’t wait to get it. Good luck in whatever you choose mate. |
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24th Sep 2025 8:01pm |
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| 4B4B Member Since: 30 Apr 2021 Location: Midlands Posts: 107
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You will have a nice smile on your face as you drive it out the dealership for sure. As they are great vehicles. Make sure you get the details for the complimentary off-roading session. (It seems not all dealers promote this as much as they should). It’s good fun, and worth not missing out on.
Enjoy! Disco 4 Owner - 110 on order |
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24th Sep 2025 9:06pm |
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| Bigmeg1979 Member Since: 11 Apr 2021 Location: West lothian Posts: 43
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Thanks mate. Looking forward to it.
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24th Sep 2025 9:21pm |
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| 4B4B Member Since: 30 Apr 2021 Location: Midlands Posts: 107
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A lot more detail about the attack here.
https://www.cyfirma.com/research/investiga...berattack/ Some of the non-technical scope is listed as follows: SCOPE OF IMPACT Based on the evidence and posts shared by the ShinyHunters Collective, the actor’s perceived impact of the Jaguar Land Rover incident appears to be significant and multi-dimensional: - Operational Disruption: They likely view halting production and retail operations, including at Halewood, as a major success, demonstrating the ability to impact JLR’s core business. - Exposure of Intellectual Property: By leaking internal debug logs, backend code, and connected service modules, they perceive themselves as having gained access to proprietary technology and sensitive vehicle system logic. - Visibility and Credibility: Sharing screenshots and internal domain information (like jlrint.com) publicly reinforces their reputation as a capable hacker group, boosting credibility within cybercriminal communities. - Potential for Further Exploitation: Highlighting access to authentication processes and backend systems indicates they perceive the opportunity to leverage this access for lateral movement, further attacks, or resale of stolen data. - Psychological and Strategic Pressure: By posting on Telegram and referencing other targets (like Vodafone UK), they signal the ability to expand attacks, aiming to create fear and uncertainty among JLR, its partners, and the public. - Industry-wide Implications: The actor likely perceives their actions as part of a larger pattern of disrupting the automotive sector, potentially influencing competitors, suppliers, and customers to view cybersecurity as a systemic vulnerability. This next bit sounds like it’s going to need some work too: The screenshots reveal that it could be a backend code for handling user-to-vehicle profile linking in a JLR system.It processes incoming JSON messages, extracts auth results, and logs outcomes. Likely part of a connected car or personalization module, critical to user identity and access. The exposed code reveals authentication logic, which may include potential vulnerabilities in how user profiles are linked to vehicles. This information could be used to reverse-engineer or exploit connected services, particularly if weaknesses exist in token handling or validation mechanisms Disco 4 Owner - 110 on order |
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24th Sep 2025 9:26pm |
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| LR Nuts Member Since: 10 Aug 2022 Location: UK Posts: 1300
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our clever government wants to help JLR ........
JLR is a TATA company The computer infrastructure is supplied by TATA ........... it's an India problem, NOT a UK bailout issue ! |
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25th Sep 2025 10:32am |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2292 
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mmmmmmm seems just like the Steel Industry..........
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25th Sep 2025 11:00am |
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| AMBxx Member Since: 24 Jul 2016 Location: York Posts: 1069 
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Yep. The big problem is setting a precedent. Why would a company take precautions if they know the government will bail them out? Priority needs to be on interest free loans to the supply chain, but that didn't end well in covid. |
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25th Sep 2025 11:51am |
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