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Honey2021



Member Since: 12 Jun 2025
Location: South Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 
I’ve had the fix Sockeye - it’s not fully fixed it and JLR acknowledge this. They have approved my rejection on this basis.

Specifically in my car (others may differ) but since the update mine isn’t rolling back in drive as much, only experienced it a couple of times, but the car still seems to struggle in setting off, and it still rolls forward when on reverse. So it has helped things but not completely. Personally I did not want to wait X amount of time for them to come up with a full fix, so have pursued rejection
Post #1073674 19th Aug 2025 12:21pm
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lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
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What are you going to replace it with, would you consider a Grenadier?
Post #1073710 19th Aug 2025 6:27pm
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coolfacehead



Member Since: 04 Jun 2025
Location: Perth
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On the 17th August i received an over the air update which include a fix for 'propulsion systems'. This didnt appear to fix the problem.


Today i got another one with the same desciption and while I don't want to get too excited just yet it does appear to be pulling away more seamlessly. Taking my foot off the break there appears to be minimal delay in pulling forward and it actually went forward when the accellerator was pressed rather than revs climbing and not going anywhere.

Anyone else also get the update yet and notice the same?
Post #1073825 21st Aug 2025 3:23am
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200sxr



Member Since: 11 Jul 2025
Location: Sydney
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An update for my situation. I had a dealer inspect the vehicle with me a few weeks ago. They agreed there is an issue but at the time there were no fixes for it. They did re-do the gearbox adaptations and that improved the rolling back issue. It did not go away completely but it certainly improved.

A couple of days ago I received a notifications for a software update. The second within a few days, the version is 4.3.3 which specifically address the propulsions and transmission. I have only had the update for a day but I certainly feel that it had addressed the rolling back and the immediacy of the acceleration from a stand still.

Will keep monitoring but fingers crossed the update did address the issues!



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Post #1073830 21st Aug 2025 8:17am
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Sockeye



Member Since: 15 Feb 2023
Location: Brisbane
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Sounds good.

I just received 4.3 update, but book with the dealer for Monday to get the patch applied. Lets see if I get something different.
Post #1073833 21st Aug 2025 8:21am
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discobean



Member Since: 06 Jan 2025
Location: Sydney
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I done my online update, but it did nothing and the issue remains, it did say there was an update to the TCM for MY25 models in the description.

Edit: Just read the recent update was 4.3.3 mine was 4.3.0, so maybe that's why.
Post #1073836 21st Aug 2025 8:43am
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six13



Member Since: 22 Jan 2025
Location: Pretoria
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South Africa 
Also received 2 updates within days. The second one 4.3.3 seemed to address this issue. I can clearly feel a difference. Let’s hope this issue is now resolved. I have driven 18000km like this, so it’s about time.
Post #1073890 21st Aug 2025 8:04pm
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DrRob



Member Since: 29 Mar 2017
Location: Hampshire
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4.3.3 installed yesterday and I can feel a difference when engaging D. It doesn’t “pause” anymore.
Level ground and auto hold on. Not tested on a hill.
Also from P to D there appears to be no pause in engaging. MY25 90 D350 X-Dynamic HSE in Silicon Silver and coil sprung
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many Range Rovers and Land Rovers over the years 😂
1949 80" - still in family since 1975
Post #1074151 27th Aug 2025 5:53pm
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LandyLover1107



Member Since: 23 Dec 2024
Location: NA
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Hello everyone.

Just an update from my side after testing another bunch of cars recently. As others have mentioned, Software Update 4.3.3 seems to have finally significantly improved the issue of Gearbox Engagement Delay. I am of the opinion that if the cars behaved this way from the start, nobody would have noticed a thing.

I see this as a massive win for us and encourage everyone to wait for the update to become available on their cars (it gets released in VIN batches, not all vehicles at once) and then test it to see for themselves. Everyone currently contemplating rejecting theirs due to this issue, please consider waiting. I know some of you have had unfortunate experiences with their respective dealers and the way this issue has been dealt with. Whilst bad service is inexcusable, the majority of dealers had very little info to work with and most cannot keep a car indefinitely until an issue which some people don't notice is fixed.

The end is in sight folks, well done to everybody who voiced their concerns and kept on hammering and coaching their dealers and workshops. In my eyes at least, this has been a collective movement. Without the efforts of all of you, we might have been a lot further away from a fix. I know for a fact that many dealers are aware of this exact thread and have been using it in communications to JLR.

Looking forward to more and more positive updates from the rest of you! Now you can finally enjoy the incredible car that the Defender is.
Post #1074308 29th Aug 2025 11:49am
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mse



Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey
Sockeye wrote:
Are you saying you have had a new software with the fix already installed?


Did it fix it?

Yes applied by the lra

It’s better, but not fixed. Certainly less dangerous

I’m surprised they are allowing a rejection, I know they didn’t for many.

I’m still following up being lied to over the fault Mike
Post #1074386 30th Aug 2025 6:26pm
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Sockeye



Member Since: 15 Feb 2023
Location: Brisbane
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Post #1074616 2nd Sep 2025 9:54pm
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Sockeye



Member Since: 15 Feb 2023
Location: Brisbane
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I have had a dealer to apply the new patch manually while still maintaining the 4.3 software.

The improvement was noticeable and very satisfactory.

I still received the 4.3.3 software over the air, but that didn't do anything I noticed.

I looks like they reduced the reengagement time when going from neutral to drive while in drive and also increased the time delay for neutral in drive to engage when coming to a stop.

While it is still largely in there, that masks the issue nicely and not as annoying as it was.
Post #1074617 2nd Sep 2025 9:54pm
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