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miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1788

My 1999 TD5 had 12 seats when I acquired it and as far as i know that's how it came out the factory. I can dig out the original paperwork if interested.

3 in the front, 3 in the middle, and 3 person benches in the rear.

I rapidly dropped it to 9 seats as I found it totally uninsurable as a 12 seater, because "that's a minibus"

Also having bought it off my old Scout leader, being 1 of 12 riding in it as a scout, was a pretty horrendous experience!

11th Aug 2025 1:05pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17911

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Any advance on 1999?

11th Aug 2025 1:44pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1788

I wonder if the cutoff is when they moved to the "td5" style dashboard

11th Aug 2025 1:53pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17911

I imagine that the cut-off was whenever it became impossible to type approve side-facing seats, but I don't immediately know when that was.

11th Aug 2025 2:32pm

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2762

There was a 2003 110 at my college which had the side facing seats in the rear, so would have been at least a 10-seater.

I suspect the death knell was the end of sideways facing seats as above, so 2006/7 when the Tdci came about.

11th Aug 2025 2:53pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17911

Did the 2003 have bench seats or individual side-facing seats in the rear, can you remember?

11th Aug 2025 3:38pm

JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7930

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

I seem to recall the middle seat was replaced with a cubby box to reduce the 110 from 10 seats to 9, to get over the 'minibus' insurance issue, but don't recall a date. James
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11th Aug 2025 4:14pm

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2762

blackwolf wrote:
Did the 2003 have bench seats or individual side-facing seats in the rear, can you remember?

It had individual seats I think, with lap belts.

11th Aug 2025 6:05pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17911

In that case it would have been a ten seater not a twelve. The twelve had bench seats.

11th Aug 2025 6:38pm

julian

Member Since: 17 Feb 2017
Location: Devon
Posts: 185

1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White

My 1994 300 is / was a 12 seater.

I took out the benches, as I care for my passengers spines.

Its still on the v5 as 12 though.

(Its not for sale, this is just a comment)

11th Aug 2025 10:52pm

Mr.Jimbo

Member Since: 20 Jun 2024
Location: Rugby UK
Posts: 18

Retroanaconda wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
Did the 2003 have bench seats or individual side-facing seats in the rear, can you remember?

It had individual seats I think, with lap belts.

Confirm that my 2003 TD5 110 CSW came with 10 seats, not 12 so it could well be the changeover point was the facelift dash etc.

12th Aug 2025 12:22pm

revd

Member Since: 20 Apr 2024
Location: England
Posts: 275

Defender 12 Seater probably not sold in the UK because the side windows made it VAT unfriendly - photo from the LR brochure - 2 x 5 inward facing seats. Would make a great starting point for a pop-top camper conversion.

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12th Aug 2025 1:08pm

wyvern

Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 2149

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red

Scotm wrote:
My 1994 300tdi 110 csw was a 12 seater.

our 300 TDI was a 12 seater too, it was a ’N’ reg and 1996 model
our V reg TD% was also a 12 seater too ... 1999 model

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12th Aug 2025 6:14pm

diesel_jim

Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
Location: hiding
Posts: 6205

Scotm wrote:
My 1994 300tdi 110 csw was a 12 seater.

My old company car 300Tdi was also a 12 seater. I think it ended up back on a T reg (1999 ish) and was a factory non county (rubber mats, cloth seats, no sunroof and white roof, steel wheels)

Used to really p!ss off the local plod when I drove down bus lanes in town.... rules back then (maybe a bit grey on my side, but I managed to blag it) was any vehicle with 12 or more seats was allowed to use a bus lane.

12th Aug 2025 7:57pm

under_rover

Member Since: 02 Apr 2013
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 153

We bought ours in Feb 02... 9 seater at that point, cubby box and 4 sideway seats in the rear. Seem to recall 2001 brochure showed 9 seats Cheers
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12th Aug 2025 10:00pm

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