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| julian Member Since: 17 Feb 2017 Location: Devon Posts: 182   
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No point in constantly cranking it. Just use the lift pump manual lever. You can feel if there is tension or not.
Also, take the inlet off the lift pump and put your thumb over the end whilst you pump them manual lever. You will be able to hear a tiny pop when you pull your thumb off IF the pump is good and off the cam. Once that's confirmed, nasty as it is, at this stage I'd suck on the pipe that comes up from the tank. I'm not telling you to do this or anyone else to do it etc.etc but it would tell you if the pipe was working. If it isn't, that's your issue. I would use clear nylon pnumatics pipe (you can get it off eBay in all different diameters) with compression fittings and brass inserts to stop the pipe collapsing (although you can get away with not doing so if you really have to). |
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27th Jun 2025 11:41pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5971 
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Been years since I worked on Tdi.
Is fuel cut off solenoid working / got power to it. That would be where I start. If that was definitely working then fuel line off before pump /solenoid and as above try sucking diesel through, or using a compressor and a rag, put some air pressure into tank and get fuel out of main line. How old does filter look? My initial looking would definitely be cut off solenoid. Also something to think about, is that the gauge SHOWS you an amount of fuel, but is it correct ? |
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28th Jun 2025 5:13am |
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| Will@LRW Member Since: 04 May 2019 Location: UK Posts: 227 
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Other thoughts:
Replace fuel filter? With a firm lift pump lever you should be able to get fuel coming out of the filter bleed screw in a minute or so. Also stick 5L of diesel in just to be sure. Check for perished leak off pipes letting air in LR Workshop New parts illustrations https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-r...ed-corners Find a Defender's history and spec: https://defender.lrworkshop.com |
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28th Jun 2025 12:11pm |
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| paul 123 Member Since: 10 Jul 2022 Location: norwich Posts: 133 
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take the filler cap off it could be a simple case of blocked breather.
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28th Jun 2025 4:53pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5321
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well for some reason the new pump isn't picking up fuel at all, and the fuel lines are dry. I am seriously thinking that it hasn't got enough diesel in, but my mam recons she filled this up full a week before it all went tits up like. I have put a manual hand pump thing on the fuel line to see if we can get anything from the tank, ( suck something through) and we are getting
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I am starting to wonder if the fuel float has stuck, and the fuel lift pump bit the dust at the same time. My dad recons someone has been at the system and syphoned diesel out of it, but i cannot see it happening. Its either got a drink problem, or my parents have thought its had more fuel in it due to the gauge not moving hardly, and they have been just topping the tank up here and their, But its been the fuel float jammed. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back In the words of my Good Friend, Gary Forrest 1980 -2025 " we will work something out" |
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5th Jul 2025 12:42am |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5321
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i am starting to think this hasn't got enough diesel in the tank at all, as mam is hell bent saying it was filled up a week before this went on the blink, and i have just tried to get some fuel from the tank, with a hand pump there, and i am getting all. so i think something may have stuck like Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
In the words of my Good Friend, Gary Forrest 1980 -2025 " we will work something out" |
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5th Jul 2025 12:44am |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5321
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well we are getting the pop sound, and i have tried the suck methord from the tank with a little pump thing, i am suspecting that this may have a major fuel problem and the fuel gauge has stuck on the full marker. But mum is admint that she filled this up like, but i am suspecting that there isnt enough fuel in it. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back In the words of my Good Friend, Gary Forrest 1980 -2025 " we will work something out" |
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5th Jul 2025 12:47am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8318 
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Am i missing something here? Cheers James 110 2010 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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5th Jul 2025 5:56am |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5971
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As I said above. Wack some fuel in it. Simple things first. |
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5th Jul 2025 6:55am |
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| paul 123 Member Since: 10 Jul 2022 Location: norwich Posts: 133
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i would put a good amount in like about 20 liters just to be sure then leave the cap off and try to bleed it.
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5th Jul 2025 4:54pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5321
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my dad has decided to make a new fuel line up, due to the original one been cut etc, he has lost the bloody fixing for the tank end, are these just a standard brake line end? When he was adding the end it pinged off into the workshop somewhere
 Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
In the words of my Good Friend, Gary Forrest 1980 -2025 " we will work something out" |
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11th Jul 2025 3:12am |
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| paul 123 Member Since: 10 Jul 2022 Location: norwich Posts: 133
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while you have the pipe off get a can of diesel and a piece of pipe then extend the car pipe so its in the can . then see if it will start after bleeding it.
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11th Jul 2025 6:03am |
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| Procta Member Since: 04 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5321
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found the line, and its now on the replacement pipe. I fitted the end this time
We installed it, and chucked 20 litres of diesel in it, you can hear the tank was practically empty like, as it was going in. I un did the fuel bleeder, and gave it a prime, and diesel started to come out of there, which was a massive step forwards, locked that off, and gave it one more prime, and my dad fired it over and it sprang into life and Terred over as normally, maybe a little better if anything. After watching a Britannica Restorations video on these pumps, i recon its been chucking the diesel out of the bottom old fuel lift pump, and fuel sender unit is stuck.
Just a word of warning though lads, some of the fuel lines for 200 Tdi and 300 TDi are discontinued. The one from the lift pump to the fuel filter housing for the 200 TDI is discontinued, a long with the main fuel line from tank to lift pump. for the 90. the 110 you can still get. So if you have a split in the main line. you will have to make these up sadly. its a 1/4 8mm pipe my dad used for the tank to fuel lift pump.
For the lift pump to fuel filter, there is a braided hose replacement, but if you can make one up your self using bits from the old unit, better off doing so, for the sake of the price.
My dad may swop it for a braided unit, but we will have to see on that one Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
In the words of my Good Friend, Gary Forrest 1980 -2025 " we will work something out" |
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11th Jul 2025 7:43pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8318
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So faulty sender and it needed fuel. Simple fix. Cheers
James 110 2010 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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11th Jul 2025 10:16pm |
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