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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 3177  
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Sounds like it may have been a Pavement Princess. Not necessarily a bad thing.
How many miles has it done. Does it look like it's been cared for (interior, any scratches. Seat, how is the bolster. ls it clean underneath or are all the bolts etc covered in surface rust. Alloys, any kerbed?) What's the service history like. Mine was serviced well before the recommended 21,000 miles. |
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3rd Jun 2025 11:14am |
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| seb101 Member Since: 30 May 2025 Location: UK Posts: 11 
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Very low mileage (4k per year), plenty of kerbing on the alloys, dealer is refurbing all of them as part of pre-delivery prep. Other than the alloys and one exterior scratch (also being fixed) it looks brand new inside and out.
Dealer story was that they are a repeat customer, MR owns an RR, MRS had the Defender 'for the school run' but couldn't cope with the size of it - hence the alloys. Full service history, first service done at 24 months despite only 8k mileage. I found the alloys with a reverse image search, seem to be from a company called Obsidian Auto Works in Biscester, they seem reputable. Judging by their catalogue, may also have fitted the side steps, but the dealer has no paperwork for any of the non-OEM parts. Only real questions are whether this would affect the manufacturer warranty, and what the mods are going to do to my insurance premium  |
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3rd Jun 2025 11:23am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 3177
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Why don't you tell the dealer you'll take the vehicle if they will swap out the alloys, they've probably got about a dozen Defenders they could swap the wheels over with.
Unless you like them, l wouldn't worry about the quality they'll be fine, probably cost a fortune. Just get it in writing from the dealer that they won't affect your warranty. (Although it's almost certain that Land Rover won't warranty the wheels themselves) |
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3rd Jun 2025 12:13pm |
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| Landy240 Member Since: 22 Jul 2024 Location: Merseyside Posts: 15
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Unless you particularly want those alloys or the car is considerably better value than others of similar spec, I would walk away. There are plenty of standard cars out there.
I'm pretty sure you need the same size spare as well as it is an AWD car. Personally I do not think they should be selling it like that. For what it's worth - I do not hold LR approved used in high esteem. I bought a RRS with supposedly FSH which turned out to have no service history save two services carried out in quick succession by the selling dealer themselves, but prior to that zilch. I only found this out when I got the car home and looked up the service history online. Needless to say I returned the car - after a LOT of hassle. The dealers tried to claim that the two services they carried out made up for the missing 40k of history. Anyway - I am not sure what standards they are working to, but they do not seem to be particularly high. I would double check everything they say. |
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3rd Jun 2025 12:18pm |
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| seb101 Member Since: 30 May 2025 Location: UK Posts: 11
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This is the dilemma.
It's good value for a standard model, it's very good value for the spec, that is, if you value the rims and the side-steps etc. I wasn't looking for anything like that, but I can't deny it does look good! I've now got it in writing from the dealer that the rims are identical in sizing to available JLR factory fit options and have the correct tyres for those, so in their opinion would not invalidate a warranty claim (although they did pop in the catch-all "ultimately JLR could refuse a warranty claim based on their own criteria"). They also claimed they "checked with their technicians and running the spare with the other wheels would be fine as this is typical for Defender spares". So... leaning towards buying. |
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3rd Jun 2025 12:43pm |
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| Landy240 Member Since: 22 Jul 2024 Location: Merseyside Posts: 15
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OK great, sounds like you have found your car.
Budget for a new 22' spare wheel though as what they are telling you is misleading at best. "checked with their technicians and running the spare with the other wheels would be fine as this is typical for Defender spares" The reason it is fine and typical to run a defender with it's spare wheel is because all 5 wheels on a defender are the same size. As to whether you can run with a mismatched wheel for a short period of time - well, perhaps you can for a very limited time but I have never seen a 4x4 with a differently sized spare wheel. This is also true where the spare is kept under the car i.e on a Hilux. |
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3rd Jun 2025 12:54pm |
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| seb101 Member Since: 30 May 2025 Location: UK Posts: 11
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Yes I presume they mean 'fine' in the same way that running a space-saver spare is 'fine' for a certain amount of time.
Prices for a spare 22" on ebay are pretty good to be honest. So is a full set of OEM 22s. I'd probably be better off keeping the fancy rims and selling those on myself. |
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3rd Jun 2025 1:02pm |
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| essentian Member Since: 02 Apr 2025 Location: East Mids Posts: 44
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Bear in mind you'll need to declare all those mods (including wheels) to insurance.
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3rd Jun 2025 1:51pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2245 
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same as having a "space saver" if the spare wheel is the same rolling radius as the road wheels than its no issue.........
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3rd Jun 2025 2:13pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1272  
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Would the 20" spare not have the same rolling diameter as the 22"? So no difference other than sidewalk stability and comfort etc |
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3rd Jun 2025 2:22pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4807
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https://alloywheels.com/tyreCalculator
Try putting the tyre dimensions into a link like this to see if you can run on a different size spare..... Just get the dealership to supply the correct diameter wheel to match the others. 2015 HT XS 90 2008 SVX 90 2000 XS TD5 90 |
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3rd Jun 2025 3:33pm |
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| Fifth Horseman Member Since: 08 Mar 2011 Location: Lanarkshire Posts: 336 
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Be careful, Although the dealer is selling the vehicle as "approved used" they are not complying with JLR's document: JLR-APOUK-0824 - Approved Vehicle Preparation Standards (UK), specifically MPI ref no. 89 which states "Must be fitted with the correct JLR specification of wheel for the model. Non OE spec wheels or wheels not suitable for the model must be replaced"
If you want the vehicle I'd be inclined to push the dealer to refit OE spec wheels. Defender 110 D300 X-Dynamic HSE MY22 |
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3rd Jun 2025 10:48pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 3177
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That Defender won't have had any more love than the annual service, fortunately it won't matter with such a new vehicle.
However the sunglasses holder will be worn out. And there won't be any screen wash left in the reservoir. |
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4th Jun 2025 8:38pm |
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| LR Nuts Member Since: 10 Aug 2022 Location: UK Posts: 1271
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Note - Wheels and tyres are NOT covered by any JLR warranty. |
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5th Jun 2025 8:29am |
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