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| Nuclear Nick Member Since: 21 Aug 2021 Location: Southwest Posts: 304  
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From the iGUIDE:
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15th May 2025 4:58pm |
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| nebc100 Member Since: 07 Nov 2023 Location: Altlinster Posts: 106 
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I know that is what is in the iGUIDE… I wanted to know what is actually marked in your CoC or in your car papers.
The reason is that I have a trailer that is exceeding the 150kg limit and on the JLR site it even says that the deployable bar can take 350kg. But my CoC says 150kg which would mean that I cannot tow my trailer!! |
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15th May 2025 5:17pm |
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| Crazymind Member Since: 11 Jun 2024 Location: Glasgow Posts: 256
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In the UK the legal limit is 150kg. However the same in Aus is 350kg.
With 350 you can tow pretty much anything. Not legally… Can you not distribute the weight so the nose weight is near the 150kg mark? What the Heck you have on tow…  |
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15th May 2025 9:52pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1256  
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The town ball weight is recommended to be 5-7%, even 10% of the trailer weight. The max trailer (tow) weight is often limited by county and driver's license laws, but from the manufacturer is probably about 3500kg, meaning about 350kg tow ball weight.
I know in the UK they are more flexible but in mainland Europe most drivers are limited to 3500kg total weight which means about 1500kg Max trailer weight so about 150kg tow ball weight. |
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16th May 2025 3:38am |
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| nebc100 Member Since: 07 Nov 2023 Location: Altlinster Posts: 106
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Thanks…
I am towing a 4 horse trailer with a maximum weight of 3500kg The issue is that on paper everything is good, but when I measured the tongue weight of the trailer (empty) it is already over the 150kg that the CoC of the trailer states. I then asked LR dealer, and they said it is 350kg maximum, but CS said 159kg like on my CoC for my Def. I am now in contact with manufacturer of trailer to see how they got it certified like this!! Thanks for your feedback though!! |
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16th May 2025 5:07am |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1777 
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Is your towball at the correct height for the trailer? Makes a huge difference on twin axles.
UK and Europe recommend 4-5% of gross weight on the nose, Australia among others recommends 10%. Hence designed for the 10%. I've heard of horse trailers that get lighter on the nose when loaded, depending on how the horses load. Also, I bet once you've loaded 4 horses and associated horsey accessories into your probably 1500kg trailer, you're over 3500kg anyway. |
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18th May 2025 10:49pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1256
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In the EU the horses cannot move once loaded. Very important.
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19th May 2025 4:07am |
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| nebc100 Member Since: 07 Nov 2023 Location: Altlinster Posts: 106
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Miker… I know about the tongue weight and am measuring at the right height.
If you read my initial question, I asked if someone could check on their CoC to see what is marked there as here in Luxembourg it is marked as 150kg and I want to see if there is anywhere in Europe (note I am not saying EU) that has it as 350kg like in AU. Regarding the 3500kg MAM… no… I do NOT exceed it!! @TexasRover… it is not about the horses moving!! It is because the trailer has a nose weight of 160-180kg even when it is EMPTY so this is not related to the horses moving about!! I have two choices… 1. Try to get the nose weight on my LRs increase, 2. Get the balance of the trailer sorted to reduce the nose weight. Since I am looking in to all possibilities, I would hoping that someone on here would have been kind enough to ASSIST and answer the question that I had asked rather than simply make silly unhelpful remarks. Sorry I was obviously mistaken so I will take back my question and hope that JLR will finally answer with something that makes sense!! Thanks all the same. |
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19th May 2025 5:09pm |
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| Davedig Member Since: 18 Feb 2024 Location: England Posts: 34 
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Put afew bales of hay in the back of the trailer when it’s empty to balance it out!
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21st May 2025 6:45am |
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| nebc100 Member Since: 07 Nov 2023 Location: Altlinster Posts: 106
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I don’t have the small bales…. Just the 500kg ones… so not really a solution.
Also … doesn’t really resolve the matter that the trailer doesn’t conform |
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21st May 2025 6:51am |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4806 
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try using water containers instead......unless you only use IBCs then that wont really help you. 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90 2000 XS TD5 90 |
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21st May 2025 8:08am |
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| eno Member Since: 15 Apr 2024 Location: Qld Posts: 44 
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Would a third option be to move the trailer axles to change the weight distribution? I realise that may not be possible. Also have you checked the tongue weight with different numbers of horses loaded? It might change with load
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21st May 2025 9:17am |
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